how do you mean, success rate?

It's an opener. It just opens? I could say "you look shit tonight" "actually that's not true, I just wanted an excuse to talk to you".

It means nothing, it's how you run from there that makes the difference.

Openers don't pull, openers open.

If it gets their attention then it serves it's purpose, thus making it a 100% success rate.

If your shittest game is strong, you may want to deliberately open badly as you can win her back around.

Don't over analize, just OPEN!

how do you mean, success rate?

It's an opener. It just opens? I could say "you look shit tonight" "actually that's not true, I just wanted an excuse to talk to you".

It means nothing, it's how you run from there that makes the difference.

Openers don't pull, openers open.

If it gets their attention then it serves it's purpose, thus making it a 100% success rate.

If your shittest game is strong, you may want to deliberately open badly as you can win her back around.

Don't over analize, just OPEN!

can you provide an example or two of a good save?

I've done this and as funny enough as it seems, it just comes of as real cheesy. Come on, attractive girls know they're attractive. The key to this opener is that instead of using the word 'attractive' use something more subtle..like, 'im looking for girls who dress up well', or 'girls who know how to match colors in clothes'. An attractive girl knows she's attractive.. what she doesn't know is if her taste, dress, makeup is working for her or not. Just use something not as generalized as the word attractive/interesting/fun because these are just plain cheesy.

haha im defs going to try this its totally my game style

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Vizzy: tone down your negs. If you are a very attractive guy your negs will be a little too hard hitting with a lot of girls. Turn your negs into teasing. Example: "awe, you're so smart!" in a patronizing way after she does something slightly off. Don't insult her hair or call her dumb. Remember - AFCs are giving her compliments. Your neg could be just holding back on compliments. I once closed a mega hottie by talking to and teasing a girl for a while and then after a while saying "wow, you're actually kinda smart." That implied that I was only expecting a pretty face at first and I didn't care....

I think the opener in this thread is pretty good. I've definitely seen a lot worse but I probably wouldn't use it very often unless I was with a few buddies and we were already having a blast and knew that every girl in the bar had already taken notice...

I like the opener. But....

Since direct = big chance of getting rejected...

How about something easier to just get hooked first?
Something that is a bit more nice and cute.


To mee, this is more of a golden push and pull-line then opener.

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