Well im a newbie just learning and trying to accept my sexuality...

Some Pu´s say that be ok to check girls out! Others say don´t even care cause you are living in a girl abundance.

I checked a girl out..

We were at a club and my friend introduced me to a girl and the first thing i did was lean over a little checking her out, especially her ass. Then i said Hi bla bla bla....

Later my friend came over and asked if i was drunk, this for checking the girl out. He told me it was embarrasing...

So what, im a little confused on this one?

What not and what do, and how to do it?

More details man.

I don't see what is embarrassing here.

Staring at her private areas or body in general is just lame. Not wrong, just lame. You admit that you are faschinated by her body and dont care about her mind. I dont think that is good. Check her out if you have to but if it doesnt work try to avoid it as well. You have to calibrate what works for you.

_________________
I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I was introduced to a girl, and then i checked her out! Especially her ass, she did see it and i did not care about it either! Then i started talking to her after my googling her ass, and my friend did not like it because i made it to obvious!

But thats where im confused, some PU´s like DavidDeangelo say´s check girls out.

DD -Iwant to put my genes in her.

This feels wierd in a way, but as ivé seen Alphas do this. I don´t care about my friend but i wan´t to finetune myself. Did i cross the line?

So what do you think guy´s.

Ivé always been avoiding this! But some material out there say, don´t look cuz you live in abundance and girls are not interesting, this for you getting your good share.

Other´s say look! This making you confused. I want to show my sexuality and become well adjust into dating and gaming. But don´t want to be the creep.

Ok first of it depends how you checked her out. A quick head to toe never hurt.
However if you get stuck on certain assets....

Secondly there are a lot of conflicting view when it comes to this type of thing.
Some preach don't look below the shoulders full stop, others to objectify women
and check them out openly. Obviously your friend falls into the first. Thats not to
say yours is wrong, if it works and gets the results your after go for it.

Thank you for aknowledging this..

I guess i went to far... But ivé always been afraid of this and wan´t to get it out of my system. BTW i did not just stand there watching her ass. It was a quick check i was showing her i liked her, nothing else!

Best way to do this is being more subtle! She has to see it, but i need to make her believe i don´t know this and being undercover so i don´t seem like a creep.


And my friend always nags at me about different stuff. -You did this and that and are you drunk or is something wrong!? Getting tired of the whining.

Thank you guys youvé been helpful!

Dude, you check girls out from AFAR. He introduced you and the first thing you do is eye her up and down, and you don't know what is wrong with this? Pull your head out of your ass dude, stop acting like a drunk creeper. Which is probably why your friend was saying, "What the fuck is wrong with you?"

Guess u guys are right. Btw i was pretty drunk though! Dammit it´s confusing with all of the material out there.

A quick check out when it is obvious she is watching you is fine, but it depends on the kind of approach and game you are going to play. If you are going direct, it can fit. If you are playing it Mystery Method, unless you are using it as a neg, it is probably not a good fit.

I like to do the checkout after I've established attraction and am dropping an IOI on her. "You've traveled a lot. I find that sexy." (check her out).

_________________
"In my defense, that baby was being a dick."

What are you guys saying here ? You are all giving bad advice to the creator of the thread. It is perfectly possible to check a girl out in an obvious way and get her. A few weeks ago I was completely sober checking out the boobs of some girl in the club. I did it on purpose. But I did it very calm and confidently. I wanted her to notice what I was doing. When she noticed, she came dance immediately in front of me, very close to me, with her hair in my face. What happened afterwards I leave for your imagination .

It is not a problem to check the girl out as long as you do it in a confident way. If you check her out like "Oh my God, your body is sooooo hot ... I wished I could have you ", then you are doomed. You are the loser who is desperate to get her so by definition you are a pervert and therefore not attractive. But there is nothing wrong with showing your sexual intentions as long as you come with the mindset "You are sexy and I am not afraid of showing that. I am going to take you right now, right here. That is how confident I am.". If you check a girl out in a confident way, she will like it. So no, it is not a big deal to have checked her ass out if you did it in a confident way.

You don't always have to hide your interest. Think about it. Showing disinterest is equal to having an abundance of women. You have so many women in your life that no woman is special for you. This is attractive. On the other hand, how many guys have the balls to check a woman out while she is looking at him, and then look into her eyes and smile at her ? Most men are scared of doing this. Only a guy having abundance of women in his life is capable of pulling this off and therefore it is attractive. But if you check her out as a drunk loser, then they feel pity for you. They will think like "This loser first had to get drunk to get some courage and now he is checking me out like a desperate little boy ... yuk!!!".

Stop this right now!

Whenever somebody thinks that he has solved the PUA mystery he keeps blasting people with his own version of the truth. This is the only way this works this is great. Sick and tired of it. You have come far young Skywalker but you are not a Jedi yet.

In order to give good advice you need to put yourself into the situation the OP is in. You need to understand what kind of game he is running. You gotta estimate the approximate level his inner and outer game is at. And give advice accordingly. This guy was being too obvious. He is not ready to start going direct yet. He was clumsy and lacked style. So, nothing wrong with that. Once he learns style and finesse, he can go back to doing exactly this. Then it will work. But dont think that your truth is universal. We are giving him good advice based on his level of game. You on the other hand write some kind of "hey Im so great" and "this is the truth" post. This if anything will fuck up his game.

I could say: Hey in order to close a girl, just go to her house and say hey lets fuck. That works for me. And why is that? Because I know the girl, we have that kind of relationship, I have done it before. Does that mean that it will work for any of you? NO! It wont! Because we are not in the same situation.

I can go up to a girl, go direct and steal her from under the boyfriends (actually girlsfriends in this case) nose without using any kind of routine. Can any newbie do that? NO! Why not, because they havent learned the basics yet. They dont have the inner game to back up their actions. They are not as far along in their training.

So PLEASE, try to consider giving valid advice apropriate to the posters level rather than just randomly posting stuff with the hidden message that you are so great. If you have advanced, thats great, I am happy for you. But that also means that you have a new responsability, to help those who havent come as far as you have.

Think about that.

_________________
I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Was that comment intended to me ? If so, you should read again what I wrote. I never said I was great. Nor did I say that what I say is the only truth. I am open to listen to everyone. I know a lot but I can still learn more than I know. I realize that. You just said the same as I. I said that you can check someone out if you do it confidently. You just said the same. I read people here telling him that he should NEVER check out a girl because SHOWING INTENTION EARLY ON is like NOT HAVING ABUNDANCE OF WOMEN. That is plain crap. And if they do give this advice they should CLEARLY STATE that they have no IN-FIELD EXPERIENCE about that specific matter and that this is something that they just THINK BASED ON THE BOOKS THEY HAVE READ. I don't care whether this guy's inner game is bad or not at the moment. People were telling him to never do something like that. That is plain bullshit.

I indeed realized that the poster lacks inner game. And I didn't say that he checked her out in the right way. I think I clearly stated that if you check her out in a lame and unconfident way, then you are doing badly. Do the same in a confident way and it is not a problem. It is up to the poster to decide for himself whether he thinks he was lame or confident. I just showed him the two routes. He has to decide for himself. Now that I reread the posts I realize that you were the one that said that checking out a girls body is lame. I understand now that you are feeling attacked. I don't want to attack you but you called an action lame that is not lame at all. I also realize that you said "I think". Well, if you "think" something than maybe you should try to avoid using the word "lame". Because even if you say that you are not sure about something but that you think it is lame, you start a mechanism into the readers mind that what he did is lame even though it isn't lame per definition. Lame is a very negative word to use. You should better have said something like: "I think checking out is not good because you show your interest too early on.". This is less strong than using the word lame. You are giving advice to someone with a bad inner game. If you use words like "lame", you are going to ensure that he will never ever consider that option again so I think it is very important to avoid the usage of such words.

Anyway, I apologise if I made you feel attacked. I like to help people and if I see some advice from which I know for sure that it is wrong, then sometimes I might react a bit too strong.

Only partially, you were just a contributing factor. This was intended for everyone, because there are alot of people there who just flex their muscles and never think about teaching. Your post wasnt that bad actually.

No worries, I guess I could cut back on calling things lame but I really think that it is lame to overdo it. Thats something AFCs do. You could check her out in differnt ways like drooling over her or just check her out. I guess based on his post that he did the former.

_________________
I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn