dude I told you if you dont wanna check out Sinn, check out Soul on youtube he is free, there I even found the link for ya : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDfgsTqUFE

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So you are saying that people put to much value into approaching and caring about the result and like putting their entire life on the line? And is that good or bad? o.O

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UGH I wish I could find the video of this.. but one of the best pickups I've EVER seen in my life. This guy with this great accent just puts up his arms and says STOP. This girl is 10/10. Of course there is a camera in front of him and he actually starts explaining how to pick up women by using her as the example. At the end of it, he literally picks her up. It's obviously not practical, but his body language and tonality are magnificent and would be beneficial to watch. Wish I could find it!

Since i'm underage all my sarging has been done during the day and about 85% of it has been at the mall, here's what works well for me.
Opener: Either "I'm looking for a shirt for my sister, it's her birthday and i'm taking her out clubbing but i'm not sure what to get her, you and her have similar styles..." or my favorite "Hey, I have a question real quick I have this really random date with my (boss's, parent's friend's, pick something) dad's friend's daughter, do you think i look super sexy in this shirt?" Obviously have a shirt to show her.
DHV: Any. I've used every canned DHV there is and i've never had one backfire.
Close: F and K closes are pretty hard so I stay away from them when i'm day gaming. I go for number close and then go for the next close on the day 2. It's not the right setting for fuck closes. I'm not saying it's impossible because it's not, it's just really rare that it'll happen. The cardinal rule though, keep it short and sweet, open the set, make an emotional connection, close and then peace out. It's so much easier to get what you really want on the day 2 than it is when she's out shopping for a new pair of sunglasses with all of her cockblock friends.

I"m giving up on Day Game it's too unreal for me, i'm moving to Path game that way I get stuff done at the same time and I'm building my life at the same time

1. Too unreal? If anything, day time is always a more "real" situation than night time.
2. What is Path Game?

Dude, daygame is definitely the way forward

Go DIRECT! I'm posting up an article on it very soon, keep an eye out for it. Hopefully it should help you out.

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I actually preffer day game! Mall sarging isnt easy but can be a very rewarding experience. Most girls actually go to the mall to shop and look for hot guys, just approaching them can be like approaching a girl at a bar (minus the alcohol.)

Eye contact is key, if you have strong eye contact it makes the whole encounter alot stronger. If you see a girl that you like in the store, dont be afraid to say a direct opener. Direct Openers are 100% more effective in the day time because the women isn't expecting it.

Indirect on the other hand is very hard in a mall enviornment. Transitioning from where is this store to a full length conversation isn't easy. Ask her for her opinion on particular stores or open up with a direct opener right after the indirect one! Tell her that she has pretty eyes when shes giving you directions is sure to make her blush! Another favorite for transitioning is "You look so familiar, Did i see you blah blah blah" This shows value that you go out and can lead to a whole conversation building comfort.

Make sure that if you want to engage a set that you stop, eventually the set will stop to. Keep talking to them if they walk off, several times they will turn around and apologize for blowing you off.

Be genuine and sincere and familiarize yourself with the mall. Pretend you never been there before and just be a pleasant guy. You can always say that you are meeting a friend at this store even if your alone. Always be on the look out for ioi's and after 3 or 4 it is generally easy to number close. Say that you need her phone number because you might get lost, or you need her number so you can take her on a date. The possibilities are endless and the whole encounter is genuine unlike a bar enviornment.

Best of luck in the field!

Path Game is just running errands and talking to who ever you run into. I can't go to the mall and sarge as the main purpose without seeming transparent and desperate any ideas?

No. I am literally saying what is happening, not what people are displaying or feeling when they approach.

When you approach or meet someone, THIS could be the person you spend the rest of your life with and have kids with.

That is why it is different than practicing basketball.

It is not good or bad, it is what it is.
So change your mindset while your there. Go to the mall to browse clothing, cds, movies, etc. Talk to the girls while you're there.

I like that one just browse cool!

Haha! My thoughts exactly, bro!

I'd say the opposite; there's nothing to lose. There are millions of other fishes out there and it's her problem if she misses out on the opportunity.

Don't fear rejection, embrace it and learn from it.

To quote SPAM Begins:

"Why do we fall, Bruce?"

yeah i was practising some basic appraoches today and found something similar. women on there own were easier to deal with, where as those with their heads down walking and texting are non-starters for me.

i also think that the christmas mindset is alot of womens heads, they seem to have that determined to do shopping and not let anything or anyone get in the way... then again it could just be a lack of confidence on my part.

I got laid on friday, not from daygame. Met a girl online went for drinks and movie back to my place later, closed.

AMEN!

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