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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:36 pm 
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Ok. This is something I created after borrowing a bit from a movie I recently watched. I've field tested this 10 times now. Result: 6 number closes, 3 fails, 1 crash and burn. So not great, but not bad either. The crash and burn was because the girl got engaged, literally 2 days prior. So I won't be offended. The key is to use your best version of cocky funny and smile a lot. Sarcasm. Sarcasm. Sarcasm.

I'll give you the dialogue from one of the number closes. (warning: this is probably the boldest opener I've ever given. Not for the faint of heart. You could probably get slapped if delivery is poor. But hey, even Thomas Edison had to fail 1000 times before he got the light bulb right. Have no fear)

I approach a 4 set and stand next to them at the bar, and while the bartender pours my drink:

Me: I've got to get back to my friends in just a second (false time constraint) but I'm thinking we should talk about your dilemma.
HB: And what dilemma is that?
Me: We should talk about your current boyfriend, and why the spark is gone. (huge smile)
HB: Oh the spark is gone, huh? (she smiles)
Me: Certainly. I'm thinking that you might have the misfortune of marrying this guy...bout 10 years from now you find yourself frustrated. Naturally you blame your husband. You're gonna think back to a collection of guys from your past, and you're gonna wonder what would've happened if you would have picked up with one of them. Well. I might be one of those guys.
HB: (laughs) Oh you think so?
Me: Call it a hunch. So what I'm offering you is a time machine to travel from then...to now, to be able to find out what would've happened. It'd be a shame, 10 years from now, to never know.

Now, it REALLY helps if you can get the other girls involved while you're saying this. Find the most playful and adventurous one in the group, based on reading body language, and play it up to her. Flirt with the FRIENDS about the target. That way you're negging and ignoring her, while saying something bold and hysterical that NO girl there has ever heard. What's the primary rule in this game? Making yourself different than every other guy in the room. Now you've demonstrated that you have the biggest balls she's ever seen. You have no fear.

Yet another reason to get the friends involved is this: Girls rarely like the guys their girlfriends are dating. Women are constantly complaining about their boyfriends to their female friends, and consequently, the friends see the guy in a more negative vein than the reality of the situation. And the single ladies in the group ALWAYS want their friends to be single with them. It gives them a sense of validation in the dating world. (How many freakin times have you heard some jealous girl say to her friend, "I just don't think he's good enough for you....")

The adventurous one in the group will help you if the target does have a boyfriend. In one of my field tests, the adventurous friend wrote down the targets number and gave it to me. If she doesn't have a boyfriend, even better. If she tells you DIRECTLY that she doesn't have one, perfect. IOI. Tell her to think about it for a minute while you find your friends, and then you're gonna play a little game for a drink. Let her friends say that was the most ridiculous thing they've ever heard when you walk away. Let the adventurous friend fight for you. I guarantee that they will be TALKING about you. And thats the point. What you just created can not be ignored. Now, when you return, change it up. Start the five question game, or cube her, or any DHV.

Like I said, this isn't even in my top 10 favorite openers, and it's response is only 60% right now. But I'm working on it, and damn is it fun to have no fear and use time machines in your open. Happy Sarging boys.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:12 pm 
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With certain girls it will probably work but i doubt it is effective with groups cos when you have the bitch shield on you will just fail


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:50 pm 
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With certain girls it will probably work but i doubt it is effective with groups cos when you have the bitch shield on you will just fail
You only trigger that behaviour if you deliver poorly. OP said you should deliver carefully.

I think it's a great opener. I got this feeling it might not always work all the way to sex, but damn, it's a frigging great way to make new female friends. Who know, a friends friend might be your target one day.

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