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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:41 am 
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Prolly a question y'all get a lot.

But is this universally the green light to aproach a female?

If I get it & I'm atracted should I always go for it?


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Ya go for it man, win or lose you still tried. With or without eye contact if your attracted to them go for it =D

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according to a few sources...

it may be an IOI if...

- she just keeps staring back at you, even while youre staring back at her. (confident girls will do this...theyre saying 'come speak to me now!!')

- as soon as you make eye contact, she looks down, and then up at you again (this is her submitting to you but then re-demonstrating her interest).

- as soon as you make eye contact she looks you up and down from head to toe. checking out the merchandise.

and then (apparently) if she looks around or up in the air when you make eye contact, she aint interested. i wouldnt trust this though!

you shouldnt wait for eye contact though dude, approach who ever the f*ck you like!


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Yeah, thanks for the help.

I was just wondering cuz this shit always throws me threw a loop... cuz I get a lot of eye contact but tryin to figure out if its good eye contact or coincidental always drives me nuts.

I end up eye fucking a lot of girls cause of this lol, & that's a bad habbit, but my image & reputation is good enough where I don't look wierd doing this lol... but I'm trying to cut it out.

Speaking of which, what about that wondering eye contact? Like.. If I look at a girl and she notices... but I go about my shit & glance from time to time & she glances back? Is the glance back interest? Or "wtf are you looking at?" cuz I understand that hovering shit is bad... but if she keeps looking back? You know..?


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if youre standing a few meters away from her and she keeps glancing back at you...i would call that an IOI. I know for a fact that if i make eye contact with a girl and im not attracted to her, i never look back there again, not even once. If im slightly interested and want to get a proper look, i will look again....if i like, then of course i will be glancing her way regularly. hence the '3 glance' rule....if she glances 3 times shes probably ascertained on the 3rd glance that she likes what she see's.

if you are right up in a girls face and staring at her, then yes she may be looking back at you as if 'wtf are you looking at'. In general you should never get this though. Girls will just ignore a guy staring at them if theyre not interested, but dont be up in their face like a freak.

It sounds like youre depending way too much on eye contact, and its probably because you fear rejection and are hoping that if she gives IOI your chances of rejection are minimized. Dont think like this, rather approach who ever YOU find attractive.....and use cold reading as an added extra.


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yeah, The fear of rejection is true.

Its Funny tho, Cuz I been Getting what you described as the good kind... From Girls I saw At the gym.. Like The 8's and up... that all the muscle heads and alphas try to talk to but look like their just chatting them to death & the girl is just keeping up the convo out of courtesy...

Thats crazy.. I really gotta work on my confidence, my life could prolly be real crazy if I just let go.

I think I'm just not sure how to open up in that situation...


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Thats crazy.. I really gotta work on my confidence, my life could prolly be real crazy if I just let go.

I think I'm just not sure how to open up in that situation...
Just approach, often. Dont even think about it. Hell TRY and get rejected a few times. Make a game out of it. This is where it helps having a wing as you take turns, and laugh about it if you do happen to get rejected. Making a game out of it takes the edge off.

Something else you can try...my mother councils for patients with anxiety and panic disorder...one thing i learnt from her which helped me when i started out....anxiety is mostly caused by thinking 2 horrible words...'what if'. What if i die tomorrow, what if I crash my car the next time i get into it, what if this plane crashes, what if i get food poisoning, what if SHE REJECTS ME. these are all irrational fears. So, when ever the 'what if' enters your mind....change that around to 'SO WHAT'. Say it out loud. Say 'so the FUCK what!', you will immediately feel less caring...and go in for the kill. Try it. The more you approach the more you will build on your core/natural confidence.


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Yeah, good looking out man, that's some of the best advice I got relating to this subject


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Thats crazy.. I really gotta work on my confidence, my life could prolly be real crazy if I just let go.

I think I'm just not sure how to open up in that situation...
Just approach, often. Dont even think about it. Hell TRY and get rejected a few times. Make a game out of it. This is where it helps having a wing as you take turns, and laugh about it if you do happen to get rejected. Making a game out of it takes the edge off.

Something else you can try...my mother councils for patients with anxiety and panic disorder...one thing i learnt from her which helped me when i started out....anxiety is mostly caused by thinking 2 horrible words...'what if'. What if i die tomorrow, what if I crash my car the next time i get into it, what if this plane crashes, what if i get food poisoning, what if SHE REJECTS ME. these are all irrational fears. So, when ever the 'what if' enters your mind....change that around to 'SO WHAT'. Say it out loud. Say 'so the FUCK what!', you will immediately feel less caring...and go in for the kill. Try it. The more you approach the more you will build on your core/natural confidence.
Good advice!

What I did to destroy my AA was to crash & burn on purpose. Like the first 5 times or so, you go in a set and make things real messy on purpose. This works because AA is stimulated by the fear of rejection and thus the urge to succeed. Take the urge to succeed away, turn the tables around, and AA is gone. Messing up is quite fun actually and you start to realize approaching is liking getting a drink, you don't think about it.

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