| Hey man. This is my input.
Theres something wrong about this kind of openers.
Which is that you acknowledge and make her realize that the first reason that you have to aproach her is HER LOOKS. Compliementing a girl on her looks will always make her feel, validated, accepted, important, and will make her feel more worthy; thus giving her more RELATIVE VALUE. Virtually 90% of men in a bar would also compliement her on her LOOKS. SHE IS HOT, and THAT IS NO SECRET.
Even if you transition to the "..i want to see if theres more to you than just your looks.." THE FOREMOST important fact is that YOU ACTUALLY APROACHED 1 girl from the group and made a compliement on her looks, regardless of ignoring her friends. Making them at the same time feel ignored, un important, less valued, and therefore they will try to regain HBs attention and go back to whatever conversation they were having, in order to regain their groups integrity and not have those negative de-validating emotions eat them.
Plus, what is gonna be your strategy to persuade her into thinking and believing that YOU ARE SINCERELY INTERESTED in knowing her, and that you do not have any agenda of your own??.
even though a high percentage of women that meet at bars and clubs look for a One night stand, or a short term relationship or whatever wild adventure they can think of, its less likely that they will react possitive if they sense "a hidden agenda"
....About the FTC you use on the opener, its kind of contradictory. Why whould a guy who says hes got little time to chat, want a BIG description of Her personality??... something must be out of place...
Remember the Mystery Method?..Congruency TEST?.. dont fail the congruency tests by having a contradictory behavior.
Women will most likely be attracted to a man who MAKES HER NATURALLY and willingly give him all he needs with out him asking for it.
Id say this opener in particular, is most likely to be effective if any given girl within a group has already given you IOIs. This gives you the oportunity to be more direct about your aproach and the things you say in your opener. And make no apologies about being direct or indirect. shes already given you her permission to HIT ON HER by giving you IOIs
EXAMPLE.
PUA: ( looks around the club, spots HB9, shes within a set of 3 more girls, he goes over and interrupts the set's ongoing FUN, just to tell one of the GIRLS ( HB9) something thats pretty ovious. SHES PRETTY. PLus hes got a contradictory behavior telling them that hes got little time to chat, but asks her about her personality too. He must have his concept of personality all wrong if he expects HB to describe her personality in just a few couple minutes.
Hes not being congruent, neither entertaining nor interesting.
HB detects this sort of hidden agenda, percieves him as lower value since hes told her something that every body already knows and proble, 30 more guys have already told her. Indicator of Lower Social intelligence. realizes that his prescense represents uncomfort to her and her group and blows him off with a polite answer or with a harsh bitch response. Why ? he asks to himself?... HB thinks to herself. How dare you to try to impress me by being ballsy and telling me something that I already know, and to make matters worst, you actually expect me to believe that you are genuinely interested in my persona?... my feelings? my personality.... oh gosh if this keeps going like this hes soon going to end up talking about religion and politics. Be Gone. )
EXAMPLE 2
PUA: ( finds a nice HB8 within a set, goes over and asks them her opinion on some intricate subject that gets the attention of all the girls in the group so no one feels excluded or less valued. As they give him their opinion on such matter Pua Negs his target lowering her value and at the same time wining over her friends. He doesnt need to acknowledge his targets beauty or qualities, just make them feel comfortable by behaving harmless. He wins them over and now becomes part of the group, since theyve all given him acceptance. THen he can point out to his target how beautiful she is but something about her isnt convincing enough so he wants to know more about her personality. This is more casual since the reason for the aproach wasnt actually HBs beauty but a simple opinion on something. Therefore HB believes in PUAs sincerity and gives him the answers he wants and she wants to give to him. Because why wouldnt she give something to a man that can keep a group of 4 females entertained? Thats high value. And she knows it, and EVERYBODY LOVES HIGH VALUE.
EXAMPLE 3
PUA: ( Looks around the club while hanging near the bar. Spots a nice HB8, make eye contact, she makes eye contact too. Neither of them look away. They smile and giggle from the distance. He walks near her just to catch her following him with her eyes. Then he turns around and goes with some direct COLD APROACH OPENER. -----"hey youre very beautiful, thats illegal, youre gonna have to come with me, put this handcuffs on"..." i noticed you noticing me , so I just wanted to put you on notice that I noticed you too.. ( W.smith)..."... you have pretty eyes girl, whats your name?...".. BABE meet you near the restrooms....wink wink...".... ------ Now for this situation, PUA already got HBs permission to hit on her, by exchanging looks and frontal body language they both acknowledge that the attraction is mutual, therefore no actual inocence is needed in the pick up. HBs friends know that she wants to hook up with him so they go back to their chit chat. while HB and PUA make up for a conversation with lots of IOIs from both parts. THEY FEEL MUTUAL ATTRACTION and PUA makes no apologies about being direct, DIRECT IS FUN AND ACEPTABLE ONCE APROVAL HAS BEEN RECIEVED OR COMFORT HAS BEEN BUILT. ( for this there are certain exceptions youre going to find out later)
This opener you have here ENIGMA would be best used when you already have the social hook to your advantage. not when opening on cold approach with out her giving you IOIs.
If you already have the sets aproval and validation then you can GO for yOur target, neg her, love her, ask her, make her ask you, tease her and compliement her too. And all those things can only get better results if enough comfort has been built. Enough to let you get away with murder if she tries to act bitchy or unresponsive. YOure already in the set and her friends want you there. 1 step forward, 2 steps back. and again.
On a side note. Theres a major problem with canned material.
Fake it till you make it, right?. Downside is that you could fall into a major lack of congruency, trying to display the right traits having a wrong behavior, or being contradictory on what you say and what you actually do. Trying to portray a different person from who you really are and not looking like that person at all.
Find the material that best fits your actual persona. THe material that gives you the freedom to expand on it with out being contradictory or not congruent. And of course, place yourself in the situations where you can visibly display more value and social intelligence.
Although those openers are great, theres an especific time and place to use them.
Im not saying that this opener cant work, because it CAN.. Heck, you could even go say a girl "I WANT TO FUCK YOU" and if shes horny enough in that moment and smiles to your INVITATION, thats IT...... but i really believe that best results for this one can be achieved if used on a better situation.
I hope my feedback helps you, or at least gives you new ideas about your aproach.
GOOD LUCK.
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