Everyone will have there differing opinions on all of this matter. The fact is, it all hinges on confidence. Women see our insecurities. If you are happy with the way you are and how you are doing in life it will reflect when people meet you. All of this AFC shit hinges on insecurities built by yourself. If you really stop and think about whats making you insecure be it you're too skinny, too fat, too tall (not much you can do about that one get over it I have) and do your best to fix it even though you wont ever be able to fix all of your problems the mere fact that you are doing your best is nearly the same as fixing it completely, you will be more successful with women, with your job and with your life in general. Most people miss the point of what PUA is all about, YES it is about picking up women but not that alone. Its about improving your life in general. Get your confidence up and go approach another two set with another bullshit canned opener and expect them to call you out on it. Then use something simple... Aww adoreable she thinks im trying to hit on her, thats neat but I like guys better luck next time... BOOM conversation started. Just be confident and you will always have the right thing to say.

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*Vizion*

This happend to me a while back, i ejected asap.

However, she responded to your opener, you opened the set.

its just a shit-test, keep your cool and dont let it rock you. I decided upon this happening to me, to have a few ICE's (in case of emergency) responces i could shoot out quick, they're all semi-negging to take the edge off the question/person.

I used to use openers like that as well. One of my favorite ones was that exact opener. I suppose they are a good learning tool. My game has evolved into something different at this point.

Now I am much more direct. I keep things light and funny but it is my confidence that opens them. Hell yes I am hitting on you, and you're going to like it I'm going to ask you questions, but I'm not going to tell you shit about myself. This is a game I play with them.

HB: What do you do for work?
ME: I don't talk about work....
HB: What, you're not going to tell me?
ME: Not tonight...I'm sure you have more interesting things to talk about than your job don't you? We'll save the work/school talk for another night...

I always assume there is another date. So my advice is to skip the canned openers and start working on being clever, on the ball and funny with some situational openers. You'll get better with practice I promise...

I write about this stuff in my blog as well...check it out down in my "signature box"

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http://www.thebachelorscode.com/

double post, my bad

Here at Brazil, those lines are starting to get well known by the girls, but honestly, you don't have to use the exact same ones that are on MM, you can make your own openners, just think about it, the truth is that the openner is not really important, 3 minutes later they'll have forgotten about it already.

I only read the opening post. Btw why do more and more people have the white rose display pic? A few months back someone asked if I could give them permission to use the picture - well obviously yes since I don't own the internet and it wasn't like I was going to challenge him to a duel if he just did it - now I'm seeing them everywhere.


Back to the topic.

Straight off the top of my head id agree with them. Id probably end up saying "Yeah, it's MM I'm trying to see if this actually works - I'm not too surprised you know about it, it was featured everywhere .. I like talking to random people so I said to myself why not try this for shits and giggles - and here I am - though Im still curious to know if you would have reacted to this material if you werent aware of this (and then the topic would most likely change to how they would have reacted)"

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"This is your reality. It is what you make it"

I repeat myself over and over... Get your own material... Replace the once you read. Nothing is special about them, there is no magic. I opened girls by saying "My brother is going to school..."

I use my own material. Just cause it would feel so unnatural saying any openers from The Game. Except it can still be seen through. I said something like 'what kind of dancing do you find most attractive?' to a girl in a club (i actually wanted constructive criticism, i wasnt sarging) and she gave me a shit test i guess:
- 'dancing from far away' - i wasnt thrown off because i wasnt trying to impress her but then she said 'is that the best chat-up line you can come up with?'

I didnt bother opening any sets after that 'cause I assumed most girls can see through any pre-scripted material and the kinds of openers suggested in the game are all immediate DLV's.

Women can be silly....most times, women go out to meet and get picked up by men. As soon as men start hitting on a girl, however, she calls them out for trying to pick her up!

It is like women want men to pick them up, but women don't want to know it (even though girls know that when a man approaches them in a bar/club, the guy is trying to pick her up).

I am not a big advocate of MM but people have success with it because it can work. These girls called you out for one reason....you didn't make them have fun. You can use any line you want on the most suspecting woman, but if she is having fun, she won't care. Do yourself a favor and forget the opinion openers about random scenarios that aren't pertinent to the situation.

Well put S.box. So long as you get them talking and pass there shit test id say your good to go. Using something like the MM and getting called out on it, if done right, can be an epic way to DHV.

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You were just really unlucky. I won't let that bother you, make up your own openers and you will be fine.

Look im sick to fucking shit of hearing people whine about openers and routines.

Ya wanna now summit?

STACK THE FUCK UP AND BE A MAN

that's all ya gotta do guys, Ok sure we have all been AFC's at some point..

But when really do you start taking action and stop making bullshit excuses .

Ill be honest because what's the point in lying YOU GAIN NOTHING BUT GUILT IN YOUR MIND.

*omg dude its 2009, no one's honest any more..*

Try it you will be surprised how many hot woman 'feel you' yes that's right i said it.




Here is my little two pennies....

Ok yes u have to use these pre-canned mat's to get a standing chance in your self to acutally approach these beautiful creatures that we crave everyday in our life's.

But ya gotta get this feeling of 'game' outta your head or your dead before you started.

In all honesty i wish i never found this 'game' because all it's done is slowly corrupt the way i used to think, and the way I used to behave (yeah sure probably my fault for taking it too deep, but guess what? IT HAPPENED)

And it can happen to you too, so just step back and ask you self


IS this really what i want?

I wanna link you too a post, on yahoo answer's that i read a few day's back and one woman put perfectly what we as MEN are slowly doing to our self's with out realizing.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 216AALlVsr


*ill post what she wrote for the lazy bum's *


A woman called : innocence wrote:

If that was his natural self, and he had the gift of genuine empathy and the ability to stir emotion, then I would love it, absolutely love it! Every woman longs to feel understood, and the ability to make that soul connection is very alluring.
However, if the guy was merely a practiced manipulator, using his mastery of language with the express purpose of creating a certain "effect" and manipulating my emotions, then that would irk me.

IF you read that correctly you will agree, that's what we are learning to do right there, with out realizing it, and guess what? IT COMES OFF CREEPY



The best thing I CAN DO, and probably most of you guys is....

Understand how and why attraction and all the other shit that got broke down works...


Then stop... trying to make it work, and just have a chat with a woman, be friendly show her who you really are, stop buying your own worse nightmare. your dark shadow.....

I hope this really hit home to some guy's.... i do because i don't want you to have the pain iv had.... it's not worth any desire or gain in woman what so ever.

Peace and love

Manic.