| I haven't read any of the books on this stuff, but instead have been browsing the forums and such. Also ive been watchinng mystery's show on vh1.
So what ive noticed from the show, is that the guys that are doing wel SO FAR, are the ones using SIMPLE but EFFECTIVE openers. Also, these guys have better social skills and confidence, but they aren't trying anything too complicated right off the bat.
The openers that have been working well IMO, are the simple opinion ones, like "what do you guys think of tatoos" It can be modified so easily to include a wing, and can be used to "neg" a target if she has a visible tatoo, or just get a conversation going.
Also, the guys that are doing well dont reveal any information about themselves. They aren't trying to "sell" themselves, they are just out conversing and having a good time. They are "interested" in the females' opinions but its on something that really doesn't matter.
They basically were:
1. Short and simple ( not a story just directing with a topic)
2. Non-threatening topics, and body-language / kino. (If you just walked up to a girl, and she's sitting with a guy who may be her BF, you dont need to do a palm reading type thing, or ask her something really personal)
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The ones that were very pitiful, were the guys that weren't as skilled, and still tried really complicated openers. Or if your not funny, dont try humor. Kosmo and his stupid U-smile crap. And then he says "im not funny am I".
Also, the goofy blonde guy that tried to go up to the girl, hold her hands and have her pick a number between one and four. This guy needs much simpler material. He's way too high energy and needs something short and simple. Everything he says, its like he's acting or not being himself. At least when kosmo looks like any idiot, he looks like a genuine idiot.
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What are some good simple openers that even a beginner can pull of, without looking like he's acting.
* the opinion openers seem very good.
EX: "What do you ladies think of Tatoos"
The Ex-GF example seems popular, but still seems a bit lengthy and although women may have strong opinions on the topic, they may look at you or your friend and just think who cares.
* Also, a non-threating compliment with justification seems good.
EX: Hi, hows it going? I noticed your outfit (or hair) from the bar, and i gotta say its really creative.
HB: Thanks (maybe thinking this is a line)
ME: Do you work in the fashion industry?
This would work well on some 7's and such, and might be a bit difficult to turn into a conversation, but is a very simple opener. Also, depending on the girls attitude, you could start to use Negs or open into feeling/emotion type stuff.
Anything else you guys know of that simple and can go many ways. If the goal of the night might be to open as many sets as possible, you might start with a "Hi", and then what?
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