hey there guys, i think my day game is fine, but when it comes to something like clubs (see other thread) and lil diners, i'm pretty darn clueless.

so basically, at my local cafe thing, there is this extremely hot waitress working in there and i've been wanting to open her bu all i manage to say is 'i'll have a chesseburger and chips' and im thinkin wtf?! why is this harder than day game! i realised it was because the openers there, won't work in that environment.

so basically [summary of that ^] i need some openers that are great to use on waitresses, nothing else, just that.

thanks guys

-teen

in that kind of enviroments, gotta remember first of all that the girl is not expecting to get hit on, since the customers might be, elder people, young kids, families, and average age guys.

PLus, shes working...

Right now a line is coming to my mind, like saying..

"ok, ill have a coffe, but im looking for something new, and I think that you might know a little bit about this... so id like to know whats your recomendation..."

( she says something that she gets asked for often, like the frappe especial )
( then you say )

"is that the best you got? do you really expect to get us to drink something here, come on, ok then tell me, whats your personal preference on coffee?"... ( smile all the time, super important )

(shell say like "id have a capuccino blah blah"..)
( you say something like ).

"capuccino?.. ok shouldnt have asked =P ( smile, like youre negging her for liking such a common drink)..."ok ill have the first option..."

all this is meant to have her laugh a bit, while you disqualify her tastes for coffe, and disqualify her as being a great waitress, a small argument on her part may arise, such as.. " ok mr client, then you tell me what kind of taste are you looking for?, sweet?, strong? light?...".. then you could elaborate on those kinds of arguments... like for instance... saying....." i like em sweet, also strong, and beautiful, oh but youre talking about the coffe. ok then i like it this way...."......
you might get her to laugh and believe you are hitting on her, which is gonna make her day more interesting. and since she wont be at your table all the time, this might be a good, "statement"... fast enough to maybe have her consider giving you her # when you ask for the bill.. like this.... " hey cold you please bring me the check.. and your number while youre at it?... i was thinking that i might teach you a bit on drinking coffee later this week..."


This is a pretty cheesy one, and standard, but it has worked for me =P...

if she says no, then you just feel proud that you opened her really good.. and you bet shell want to have more customers like you, all confident and smiley.

remember.. the line is good... but better is having a nice body language, smile and confidence to deliver the line....

also try cocky and funny.... and be confident that for daygame a waitress is not that used to get hit on, during the day at work. it happens, but its not too common.

so go ahead and experiment,.

Game on guys ! peace

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Hitting a hot waitress... well contrary to the previous poster, hot waitresses tend to get hit on a LOT. Like 15-20 times a day, sometimes more.

The sad thing is, from the old guy to the 15 year old starring at her chest, she's probably seen a lot of guys she simply wouldn't go out with.

So, first you have to make sure that your intentions are clear or else she'll just think you're another customer.

How do you do this? Well by the way you look at her. Make sure you look at her a little longer than you should. Not in a creepy way, but maybe 1-2 seconds longer than normal.

That's usually enough for her to get the hint that you find her attractive.

Then, as the previous poster mentioned, cocky and funny is a good way to spice things up, but you don't want to get into a huge conversation right then and there.

Instead, if it's a waitress, try to slip in as much DHV as you can while not sounding like you're bragging. You want the waitress chasing you instead of the other way around.

Then, you want to ask her little questions and do some light teasing. Make sure she's laughing when you tease her or else you're doing it wrong.

Finally, you're often going to have to ASK for her number. It looks really bad if a waitress slips you her number (she's not allowed to flirt with customers) so you'll have to get her number.

Ask for it, a lot of waitresses give their number out to 2-3 guys per week that they find interesting... just be one of those guys, and then take it from there.

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thanks, the second post was alot more like the environment i'm on about, unlike bass' post but thatnks anyway. rememeber, i'm a teenager, we don't tend to like coffee and to be more specific its not really a cafe, its a wimpy burger (sorta like the english version of denny's) :]

i still want a line to open her though. i'll give a small description of her so it may come in handy for openers. she's blonde, average height, nicest ass i have ever seen on anyone ever omgomgomgomg and pretty decent perky tits..

keep posting openers guys. i was thinkin of doing the 'do you think im gay?' routine etc but not really sure if that'd work

-teen

i have read this from a ross jeffries book -
go up to her and ssay

"I don't mean to interrupt you while you are working, but I just wanted you to know that I think you're one of the most attractive women I've ever seen, and I'm really glad I worked up the courage to introduce myself to you."

Tell her your name, ask her hers, and then let her get back to work. Chances are, she'll be so impressed, she'll come over to talk to you. This line is very flattering, and what really makes it work is the last bit about "working up the courage to meet you." It implies that she's so beautiful that you just had to overcome all that shyness just so you could get a chance to meet her. Women eat this line like candy and it will get you laid by waitresses, salesgirls and the like with startling frequency.

never tried it myself... seems relevant to you though

good line, but it wouldnt work because i have talked to her a lil bit, but i reeaallly wana open her but i don't want something as forward as that coz tbh, at my age girls would find it creepy and tbh, its not just to try and get with her etc, i wouldnt mind being in the LJBF zone that much either and saying that would eliminate the whole friend making process :[

There was a guy on here who said he used to do this

"How much is a coffee/burger/etc?"
HB: "$£Blah"
"How much to get your number?"
HB: Haha

and he didn't know how to go on with that. Can't remember what the answers were.

yeah thats alright, but i'd prefer something that wasnt as cheesy as that ^

This sounds very interesting. It goes against most of the stuff that you normally hear about here, like "Don't hit on her during the first 10 minutes." But whatever works. Any thoughts about this opener or has anyone actually tried it out?
I'm also looking for a good opener at for waitresses at the moment and any further ideas in that direction would be appreciated.

You could try this, I used this once at a denny's. It worked pretty well.

Her: Are you ready to order sir?
Me: Hmm, not exactly..I'm kinda stuck..
Her: Would you like me to come back in a couple minutes/ or/ I'll give you a few more minutes then..
Me: No it's fine, actually let me ask you something..have you ever wanted to try something new? Like take a little risk and try something different?
Her: Umm, yeah sure
Me: That kinda how I'm feelin right now..I'm trying to weigh my options..what do you think, should I just go for it, or stick to the same ol' routine?
Her: Go for it
Me: Alright then, good choice, My names Novell, and next to this Burger I'm going to order, your the most intising thing in the diner *smile*.
Her: Aww..
Me: Yeah, you were right, seeing that smile on your face was worth the risk. *Smile back* I forgot what I wanted to order, see what you do to me? We could never work out.
Her: I think you said you wanted the burger
Me: We'll after seeing a smile like that, I think I've changed my mind as to what ][i/] want...
Her: And what would that be?
Me: We'll for starters, a [name whatever drink your going to get], then I'd like you to make yah way back here and we can see what happens..


Yeah, So I got a number close from this. Hope it helps some. I don't know what methods or anything are in this, it was just natural stuff I used. I think there's negs in it if I have the correct idea of what those are..I'm new to the "organized" game if you will.

I like most of the above answers. Recently I was in a bar and a friend of mine made one of those origami swans out of a napkin. I was like, neat. I'm a dude, origami swans don't get me going ya know? So the waitress comes up and grabs the origami swan just because it was sitting on top of some other messy napkins and grabs them all and crumples them up to throw them away. The friend who made the swan was gone, so I immediately took my chance and said "Oh my gosh, what are you doing!?" She was like what, and I said "I made that for you and you're just gonna throw it away?" Small talk followed, she was impressed I knew origami (which, of course, I do not) so I said I would definitely have to come back and teach her sometime. I hadn't really been gaming her, so no close, but just an interesting bit that you can use if you learn just a bit of origami. I also left my tip folded up like a heart. Corny, but she remembered me the next time I came in .

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