After reading a comment in the gun-toting FR, that 5 guys and 1 girl means the girl is taken, I had to post a rebuttal. The thread is locked so I am posting it here.

Back in July, while still pretty new to PUA Do, I was riding home from a party when a rain storm came through and made me pull my motorcycle under a bridge to wait out the lightning. There were two other riders uner the brige waiting it out, too. A guy and a very fine HB.

I figured that she was his so I decided to make small talk. I asked whether they did track racing and such. She turned out to be an amatuer motocross rider.

I said, "You got a good lady there, man. Don't let her get away."

They laughed and she explained he was her cousin.

That moment taught me to never assume a girl is taken by a guy in the group unless she gives him noticible IOIs. If you do not see a love connection between them, they are NOT together.

So, a week later, my first main wing and I were down in Georgetown, DC. He dares me to open a group of six guys and a smoking hot Asian woman. Just for the nuts of it, I did.

I introduced myself to all of the guys and ignored her. I invite them to my standup show and then say goodbye to all of them, again ignoring her. She makes it a point to say I didn't say goodbye to her. She introduces herself and I ask, "So which one are you here with?"

"None of them...or, all of them. We just met. We are all doctors from around the country who are in DC for a seminar."

I was still dealing with AA at the time, so my opening was as far as I could get.

I just shared this top point out that not all women are with a BF.

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From experience I've noticed a lot of asian women do this, especially in the clubs. They hang around a huge group of goofy guys who you'd ''think'' are their bfs but they're usually just classmates, coworkers, brothers, or their brother's friends etc. I've always found it sad to watch since none of them get with her anyway (assuming they're not family )

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Now that you mention it, yes, it's true. One of the PUA groups I hang with has an Asian chick who tags along. Not quite as hot, but fun to be with.

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Question is how do u open up the 5 guys? because you're a guy and trying to tlak to those 5 guys seems homo to me. I mean its just awkward.

What serious? You never talk to guys in bars, ever? Never make new friends, even just for the night? Never bought another guy a drink or had one bought for you?

Theres nothing homo at all about it, its called socializing and being friendly. If you cant approach members of your own sex where there should be little to no fear of sexual rejection, I wonder how you manage the opposite? You should get out there and practise just being friendly to strangers, its also a major avenue for gaining social proof in a bar. You know, one of the key methods for DHVing yourself to HB's.

Here's your opener:
"Hey guys, quick question. Me and my four buddies are looking for a place we can find a woman to share. Any suggestions?"


Of course, I am kidding.
"Hey, guys. Real quick. What was the finakl score from last night's game?"
"That's cool! I was in an office pool and I just wanted to make sure I won."
"Yep, I walked away the big winner...$500! Any ideas on where I can have a fun time with that kind of money?"

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it just really never hit me, When im' out at the clubs with my friends, all we do is approach the females and never i guess make friends with males. I never really made any friends with the males at the club. Its something new to me....(Well i guess one time when i was drunk, i just talked to everyone including males but, when i'm not that drunk it was females or nothing). I'll keep it in mind.

Another question:

To what extent do u ignore the female? Once you talk to all the guys. When should u start making some contact with the female you eyeing on and eventually make some moves on her

You ignore her until she interjects herself, then you neg her for interrupting. "How do you guys put up with her?" "Young lady, we are talking guy talk here. You wouldn't understand."

If she is impressed with your banter with the guys enough to attract her, she will interject into the conversation.

If she doesn't say anything, but sits there, then she isn't interested in being part of your conversation.

When she does say something, and you neg her, in a few moments turn to her and say, "Now what was so important?" Then you are begining your conversation with her. The reason you push her away at first is to prove to the guys that you are not talking to them to get to her.

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