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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:21 pm 
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How do you guys transition from an opener into conversation? That's an area where I'm having a lot of problems when coming up with canned material. I got two or three decen openers I want to try out but I can't figure out how to transition them into a conversation where I can DHV.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:47 pm 
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13 Detailed Steps (Mystery):
1) Smile when you walk into a room. See the group with the target and follow the tree-second rule. Do not hesitate-approach instantly.
2) Recite a memorized opener, if not two or three in a row.
3) The opener should open the group, not just the target. When talking, ignore the target for the most part. If there are men in the group, focus your attention on the men.
4) Neg the target with one of the slew of negs we’ve come up with. Tell her, “It’s so cute. Your nose wiggles when you laugh”
5) Convey personality to the entire group. Do this by using stories, magic, anecdotes, and humor. Pay particular attention to the men and less attractive women. During this time, the target will notice that you are the center of attention. You may perform various memorized piece like the photo routine, but only for the obstacles.
o The photo routine involves carrying an envelope of photos in a jacket pocket, as if they’ve just been developed. Each photo, however, is pre-selected to convey a different aspect of the PUA’s personality, such as images of the PUA with beautiful women, with children, with pets, with celebrities, goofing off with friends, and doing something active like roller-blading or skydiving. The PUA should also have a short, witty story to accompany each photo.
6) Neg the target again if appropriate. If she wants to look at the pictures, for example, say, “Oh my god, she’s so grabby. How you roll with her.”
7) Ask the group, “So, how does everyone know each other?” If the target is with one of the guys, find out how long they’ve been together. If it’s a serious relationship, eject politely by saying, “Pleasure meeting you.”
8) If she is not spoken for, say to the group, “I’ve sort of been alienating your friend. Is it all right if I speak to her for a couple minutes?” They always say “Uh, sure. If it’s okay with her.” If you’ve executed the preceding steps correctly, she will agree.
9) Isolate her from the group by telling her you want to show her something cool. Take her to sit with you nearby. As you take her through the crowd, do a kino test by holding her hand. If she squeezes back, it’s on. Start looking for other IOI’s.
10) Sit with her and perform a rune reading, an ESP test, or any other demonstration that will fascinate and intrigue her.
11) Tell her, “Beauty is common but what’s rare is a great energy and outlook on life. Tell me, what do you have inside that would make want to know you as more than mere face in the crowd? If she begins to list qualities, this is a positive IOI.
12) Stop talking. Does she reinitiate the chat with a question that begins with the word “ So?” If she does, you’ve now seen three IOI and can…
13) Kiss close. Say, out of the blue, “Would you like to kiss me?” If the setting or circumstances aren’t conductive to physical intimacy, then give yourself time constraint by saying, “I have to go, but we should continue this.” Then get her number and leave.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:31 pm 
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I used to worry about transitioning, but i decided to ditch the mystery, strauss style which takes years to master.and way too much info. I suggest to you captivatetoconnect website and order the ebooks. This way, you can go direct, or whatever way you want, cause when its natural, you don't need to memorize anything. Although there are some damn good routines out there. Yes you should memorize about 1 or 2. but transitioning comes natural when you aren't trying to memorize things. Then, you will get lost what r you gonna do AFTER you transition? your might go on the internet and see what to do in the next order.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 am 
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I agree with manman. Being natural is the best. One of the most helpful things for me is just remembering DHV stories and think about a way to link them into the conversation. It's better to make statements so it doesn't sound like your bragging. The most helpful thing especially with hb8 and up is thinking hot and cold. Compliment if she deserves it, take it back with a sort of disinterested comment. She will have no idea if your interested or not. If she's really into you, you can bring in the "lets just be friends" technique. This will drive her crazy and her body language will show it. Just be yourself. It is the easiest thing to do.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:41 am 
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I understand the natural way but I still just need help with how I take it from an opener to a conversation. Quick note, I'm gaming in the day, not in clubs so it's a different setting.


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If you have opened, you are already in a conversation.
Calibrate her on 1-10, Throw a neg at her (if necessary), calibrate her response, give her a little qualification.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:29 am 
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Ooooh, ok.. it depends on what type of opener you use. I don't know, i go direct 90% of the time and situationally 10% of the time. If you get stuck after you open her, Go ahead and find a stupid question to ask her. Say anything that comes to mind. It all works. Just as long as you show you are in control. It takes practice.

You could ask .. What do you do for a living? nurse?
or Whats your name? wait lemme guess.
Is this your favorite store? you seem like you come here alot.

Fuck what any PUA says. you can ask these questions. Just throw in some teasing and thats really all you have to do. everything else is optional.


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