Okay, here are two brand new openers I just thought of which actually go a bit further than just opening. Probably more appropriate to call them "procedures" as they consist of openers, hooks, value demonstration, disqualifiers & #-close in 1 of them. As a result they're quite lengthy, hope you don't mind. Please give me honest feedback and provide suggestions for improvement as I'll be field-testing them very soon. Thanks guys.

Note: the color difference (orange/blue) demonstrates different responses/scenario's



DAY OPENER:

You: Hi, I’m getting a bit lost here. You girls seem really friendly so I figured I'd come & ask you for some help
Her: Sure! Where do you need to get to?
You: Well, I’m trying to find a shortcut/express way to get to... your heart *Smirk*
Her: blah blah you're so cheesy etc.
You: And by heart I mean pants... na jk
Her: blah blah *Maybe get a laugh out of it*
You: No, seriously, is there any way to get there without too much effort & too many road-blocks? Cus you see I’m a bit lazy to take the main route
*if she gets excited/cutesy go for the neg*
You: wow wow, ease up girl/s, I said I wanted to know how to get there. I haven’t decided whether it’s worth going or not. But I think I’ll be able to come to a decision more easily with some time and a cup of coffee. I gotta run now, my friend's waiting over there, but why don't you put your number in here *Hand over your phone* and we can catch up after you’re done retail-therapying through whatever it is that you’re trying to retail-therary through?
*if she shit-tests e.g. “there’s no easy route!” Or “you have to put in the effort!” etc. then*
You: Really? Damn, if only I owned a helicopter huh? I mean it’s not that I don’t wanna put in the effort, I just need to know whether the destination is worth all the hassle or not, you know? In my personal experience, a lot of the times it is not. But tell you what, I’m sure I’ll be able to find out with some time and a cup of coffee. I gotta run now, my friend's waiting over there, but why don't you put your number in here *Hand over your phone* and we can catch up after you’re done retail-therapying through whatever it is that you’re trying to retail-therary through?



NIGHT OPENER:

You: Did you know that you’re the 2nd most irresistable person in this place?
Her: Blah blah
You: Mmm… curious to know who snapped up the gold medal?
*If she already asks this question then leave it out*
*Clears throat and look smug*
*If you want can also say the following w/ a cheesy smile*
You’re looking at him, sweetheart
Her: Blah blah
*good sign if she laughs/smiles*
You: You know what this means right?
Her: What’s that?
You: If you and I were an item, we’d give Brad-gelina & Dave-toria some
serious self-esteem issues
Her: Blah blah
* if she laughs/smiles then say this w/ a twinkle in your eyes*
You: But fortunately, they’re safe for now as I don’t date self-absorbed women
*if she shit-tests w/ eg “well too bad we’re not huh” or “I doubt it” then say this also w/ a twinkle in your eyes*
You: Hey, I’m willing to get off my high-horse and give it a try. I mean admittedly I’m taking a huge risk here; for all I know you could turn out to be some hysterical chic with enough emotional baggage to fill a jumbo-jet and a split personality disorder, but I think it’s worth putting up with if we get to see some man-tears from the Brad and the Dave. Unless you have some self-esteem issues yourself and don’t think you’re good enough, do you?
Her: I’m not self-absorbed / What makes you think I’m self-absorbed?
Her: No, I don’t have self-esteem issues!
You: Well, you did admit that you were the 2nd most irresistible person in this place. And there are a lot of gorgeous women here.
You: Well that’s good, but how much emotional baggage do you have? I need to know so I can prep myself.
*you've got her in a qualifying state so just keep it up to create attraction or branch out to whatever's next it's up to you*

The responses to her shit test etc are good but that opener needs ALOT of work the first one is just a cheesy pick up line you might aswell go to a girl and say "If you where a burger youd be MCgawjus" the only way i would use one of these is if your a MPUA and can minipulate any situation.
At the end of this they will now your picking them up and probably think your a pritty borin AFC

Thats my opinion anyway for me this wouldnt work...but give it a go in the feild and get back to me ifit worked for you i might give it a try
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Real men don't ask for directions.
I can see this running into a lot of shit tests with this line.

first one you may get somewhere but I'm guessing you will get to your second line and they will leave.
Again the second one sounds like you would get shot down pretty fast, could just be my dislike for direct game, for the simple fact attractive girls get hit by it constantly so it is more for less attractive girls.

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not my method whatsoever. these could work - there is just such a high possibility that they wont.

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Umm... damn, that's quite a few thumb-downs, haha, maybe I'll continue to work on them.
I realize the first one is a bit cheesy, I purposely wanted to make it sound cheesy and needy to set up for the neg that follows. And remember that this is a day-game opener to be used on walk-by sets which means they will be caught off-guard. You boys seriously reckon it won't work at all?
You mind elaborating a little there brother? That ain't gonna help me much
and the reason is....

Come on dudes, give me something to work with here!

How about, just go out and do it. You'll learn a lot more that way.

True that, can't know whether they will if you never put them to the test. I'm gettin tired of the old opinion anyway.

yer well its a bit direct but bud just go for it. Im not sayin git wouldnt work but your going to have some made game to pull it off.

Try it out and post how it goes
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sorry dude but thats pretty weak i would scrap em

i think there funny but doesnt work on all of the girls..but i like the first one..^_^