Ok guys I came up with this the other day with the idea that it can help out a friend of mine. He is a helicopter pilot and he is just getting into the swing of the PUA Community. Its an opinion opener based off of my last go fish opener.

LC: Excuse, I can only stay a min but I need a females idea about a first date. A friend of mine is a helicopter pilot and was thinking about taking a date up for a short spin. What do you think?

Now he is a friend of mine and we are going to sarge together so I wanted every ones opinion on this one or the best way to use it. Would it be better for me to open with it and then bring him in shortly their after? Maybe he should open with it and then later on WHEN they ask what he does, he tells them he is a chopper pilot also? What do you think?

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I personally like this one loungecat, cause its different from, McDonalds floor sweeper, or Computer geek, (nothing wrong with that) or something mundane. Its totally different and exciting. PLus, what chick wont wanna go in a chopper. 100 pounds say you cant Fclose IN THE BACK OF THE CHOPPER lol. (i might add it must be in the air wiseguy!)

A friend of mine that should be joining this forum soon, Dr1fter, he has used the "I am a pilot" line for a few years now. Before he even knew what game was, and it worked.




- lets not let the F/Close, Kiss close etc.. get in the way of the purpose of the game. To enrich our lives and maximise social status.

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this is good for your friend..... bad for you...

the entire focus of the conversation will go onto your friend if you try to use it - the frame shift will be something you prob wont get back if your mate has any game

i say this cause i can just imagine the convo....

'(your opener)
her: 'OMG - a helicopter ride as a first date!!!! thats would be amazing'
you: 'well, actually he is just over here' (comes over....)
her: (total focus on your mate):starts thinking how she can get a free helicopter ride...

Even if i met a bloke in hawaii - i would be thinking how i could buddy up with this bloke and get a free helicopter ride (without any sexual antics)...

HE should def use it

And remeber 100 pounds is about $200 US!! (or was about a yr ago)

I think you could pull this one off loungecat.
Provided you bring in your pilot friend AFTER you have reached the hook point.
You want to make sure you have built up an attraction to the whole group before your friend comes in with his massive DHV's.
That way the group will still want to hear about what you have to say as well as include the chopper pilot in the conversation. Perhaps run a few routines and then say
'Hey remember that pilot I was talking about? Yeah hes just there. Hey WINGMAN get your ass over here I want you to meet some cool people.'

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King has a point, if your going to use it as an opener, be careful and make sure that you have a high enough social value so your friend doesn't overshadow you in the long run. Maintain a strong frame and DHV with something as cool as being a helicopter pilot, because thats a pretty solid DHV for your friend.

NOTE: "LC: Excuse, I can only stay a min but I need a females idea about a first date. "

You don't need to open with a time constraint all the time, it works, but you don't need it. You can throw it in a few minutes later, not at all, or use other ways that saying that same line over and over and over. It gets old telling people your planning on leaving when your really not, and there are also other ways to do it. So consider your options before you go opening every set with "excuse me I can only stay a minute".

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Hey every one thanks for your input. I agree with not always opening with a FTC and perhaps just working it in later. My goal for this opener was to help out my wing (the pilot) but I can see how it could go either way. I am heading back to tx tomorrow for a wedding and will be in austin for a few days. Most definatly going to hit up 6th st and will test it out there if any one wants to go (meeting some friends there any ways). Well I am crashing out, will write more tomorrow when I get in.

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FUCK ME CAT

i just looked at your myspace...

are you one of those 'all american' 'redneck' kill every mother fucker blokes!!
its a fucking intense web site. not really female friendly at all!!

makes me laugh - and shit myself all at once!!

Well I am the All America but not so much on the redneck. I like shit that blows up and goes fast and you have to admit those are some bad ass videos. My myspace profile wasnt designed to be female friendly because I am not a female. Its just a little piece of who I am. I know that you have to cater a little bit to the opposite gender but that is my mark on the internet. If you look at the pics I have posted you will see a lot more of who I am. Really I guess I just suffer from a typical guy complex.

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i love it loungecat!

nice one fella.............