I've started playing the online game about 3 years ago, and only recently discovered the PUA community.

Till today I f-closed exactly 14 girls through online dating, so I took the time and crushed some numbers:

- 14 f-closes

- 20 dates with the intention to have a sex on the first date (including 14 f-closes). Or in other words a "sex-date". As far as I remember 6 of them went wrong, I f-closed all others (14). Lately I'm not pushing as hard towards f-closing anymore, as I want to establish more long term sex-relationships. So I'm still in contact with some of these girls, as they're attracted to me, and we simply decided to give it some time.

~60-70 reasonable online conversations, I call those "1Day+ replies", or in other words a conversation with a HB that lasts longer than a quick chit-chat on an evening.

- and I messaged approximately 800 HBs, that's only a guess, as I never kept track of that, and it depends a lot on the site I've used (see below).


These numbers obviously depend on a lot of factors, i.e.:

- on my best site I messaged ~35 girls, and dated 5 of them (1 f-close & 3 k-closes with possible f-close in the future) (1:35-1:9),

- on my worst site I messaged 600 girls, and f-closed 9 of them (1:67)

- it depends a lot on how you'd preselect the girls, which sites you're using, I often used local erotic/sex-dating sites, but recently I'm also using generic dating sites.

- or which profiles you're contacting, i.e. if you're only contacting HB8-10 your ratios would look worse as if you'd also contact HB6-7.

- especially in the beginning I didn't have a clue what I'm doing, but I compensated that with pure numbers, so my online game was very weak, but I simply messaged 10 times as many girls as I'm doing now, so I got laid quite frequently -> MEMO: Quit reading theory, spend more time with sarging


Soooo, if I put all this together I'd have the following ratios:

800 messages
65 online conversations (reply rate 1:12)
20 dates (date rate 1:40)
14 f-closes (f-close rate 1:57)


Would be interesting to hear your numbers, BTW this should not be understood as some form of bragging, or as a e-penis contest