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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:57 pm 
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This is an email convo I had with a GORGEOUS young thing on a dating site. I lost her on the number close. I am gutted!

I am wondering if anyone can spot any flaws in my game. Did I come off as too aggressive? Any comments welcome.
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*Clubname1*, *Clubname2*. Which one do you prefer to mess up your hair at?

I'm new to *city*. I've been to *club, *bar* and the *club* so far but I wanna try more.

You just into punk or do you like music with balls too?

Her
whats musi with balls? >.

Me
Some balls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI-fWgyMXYA

You didn't answer my first question. Which club/bar do you puke outside off in the early hours in *city*?

Her
i dnt like clubs/bars.. those things scare me for multiple reasons...

Me
Explain...

Clubs aren't so bad. The only thing you need to worry about as a girl is aggressive knobs trying to pick you up. If you're in a group with a guy or two who are watching your back it's fine.

In rock clubs I have found these wankers to be rare.

Blokes have more to worry about when drunken wannabe alpha male twats try and start fights. I've never had to resort to full-on fisty-cuffs.

What's wrong with clubs? They are fun! Have a drink and dance!

Her
well, there's the****guys, there's agressive girls, someone can drop something in my drink... alot of things can happen...
besides i dnt really know how to dance... so... yeah... =/

Me
Aggressive girls, haha! Watching girls rolling around on the floor pulling hair is fun! I have never seen it on a night out though. Disappointing!

Like I said, if you're with friends nothing is going to happen to you. You DO have friends don't you?!

Give me your number and we'll organise a night in *city*. You bring a couple of your friends and I'll bring a couple of mine. We'll have a drink, chat shit and take it from there.

If it doesn't go so well who cares? You will have your posse and I will have mine and we can go our separate ways.

We both joined this site to meet new people. Let's do it.

Give me your number. We'll continue this on the cellular telephone network...

Her
you sound too much like my ex... and im scared of people like him...

Me
Well something must have attracted you to him.

I have no idea what your ex was like so I can't comment but what I can say is you have no reason to be scared of me.

If you can't trust enough to meet in a public place or even to give out your phone number then you and me wouldn't work anyway.

Maybe we're wasting our time. You decide.

Her
he was a controlling psycho... cant trust people tht remind me of him

Me
Ha. I am one of the most laid-back people you're ever likely to meet. I even suffer a bit with shyness.

Controlling? I wouldn't say I was controlling just that I know what I want and am willing push for it.

I have no interest in making you do anything you don't want to do.

Am I a psycho? Wellllllllll probably not for me to judge but I've never been arrested. In fact I actually worked for the police.

You lead the convo from now. If you want to ask me something, do it. If you want me to piss off say so and I won't message you again. But please don't waste my time. Time is precious.

Her
time aint precious.... it's so slow.. wont move for me.. but yeah.. i'm not gonna trust you what ever you say... i'm sure theres enough people on here who will tho :)

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Time is the most precious thing we have. To wish for time to move faster is too wish for a sooner death.

Fill your time doing the things you love with the people you love and you will cherish every second.

It was nice talking to you. Good luck with your search.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:55 am 
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she wasn't comfortable with giving you her number, you went for it way too soon... You were just too aggressive, you should of waited for more IOI's or asked for an im instead. You also didn't really build up any attraction... "i'm new to the city"... her interpretation "I don't know any places fun to go, I have no connections, I have no friends" then you followed with "I love clubbing and aggressive girls" Her interpretation "I'm a douchebag looking to hookup"

All girls aren't going to think that about clubbing, but it was pretty clear she wasn't into that scene... One of the things women don't want to feel is that you like them simply for there looks... when you build up attraction you then have to make them qualify themselves by saying well what are your passions in life? her response... wow that's pretty cool, i'm impressed.... and basically convey that "I like you because of your passions not because i'm looking to fuck you"
She didn't qualify herself at all, in fact everything she was was opposite of you and what you seemed to be into.

honestly though she sounded like a psycho anyway, a lot of pretty girls on dating sites are on there because they are to psycho and the weirdest things turn them off.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:01 am 
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You talk too much....3lines she responded with one.
Pick it up, and don't use so much slang until you know she's familiar and comfortable with those terms.
Twats? Wankers? Blokes? Seriously?


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Your messages we MUCH longer than hers, it's recommended you roughly match the size of hers. It also read like you were talking at her a lot of the time.

Obviously the girl has some issues from her previous bf, and you seemed to trigger the negative ones. So I'd say in future, try to have more fun and be more playful with her. And try and stay away from all the aggressive talk and talk about fights and shit, just gonna weird someone out on line.

Oh and a side note, talking music for a minute, that music had no balls whatsoever !! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:25 am 
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Not to hijack the thread

But i've tried to number close today on POF using that Perfect Game thread
And two different girls replied with:
"My phone's broken"

How to reply to this?

"Let's IM instead?"


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:31 am 
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imo;

You brought up fighting and aggression waaaaaay too much.

When she said that clubs and bars scare her, I woulda made a Gremlins refrence, - "Bright light, bright light! :D" (they have bright lights in clubs, right? Then asked her if shes into movies or if shes seen gremlins :D
You kinda really rambled with the "bar talk" - I found myself cringing just reading it. It was awkward and you dropped too much slang and negativity into it :f

OR you coulda said "Yeah, I was once in a bar, I had to fight 600 guys just to get a drink, and this one guy was shooting sharks and laserbeams outta his eyes and I kicked him so hard, he saw the curvature of the earth!" But she did seem a little psycho or had issues, so I dunno if she woulda spotted the sarcasm.
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Like I said, if you're with friends nothing is going to happen to you. You DO have friends don't you?!

Give me your number and we'll organise a night in *city*. You bring a couple of your friends and I'll bring a couple of mine. We'll have a drink, chat shit and take it from there.

If it doesn't go so well who cares? You will have your posse and I will have mine and we can go our separate ways.

We both joined this site to meet new people. Let's do it.

Give me your number. We'll continue this on the cellular telephone network...
Imo, the bolded bits are the dodgy bits that scared here off. I think this is where it goes "tits up".

1. You demanded her number, not asked. It seems this way because of the tone of the conversation before you asked for it (Fights, bars, roofies in her drink) and you asked her way too soon. You havent built enough comfort with her. Infact, i'd say you were destroying comfort at this point.

2. You promised her that nothing is going to happen to her - A normal guy doesnt need to make that promise. Now she might be thinking "Why? Would/was something gonna happen?" You needed, imo, to win her over in the conversation before asking her on a date, because at that point in time she wasnt interested.

Then, the conversation went onto her ex and you were desperatly trying to validate yourself to her - baaaaaad!

Ignoring the fact that a girl talking about her ex is a HUUUUUGE red flag or a IOD - deflect the conversation away from it rather than try to defend or validate yourself.
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time aint precious.... it's so slow.. wont move for me.. but yeah.. i'm not gonna trust you what ever you say... i'm sure theres enough people on here who will tho Smile
This, to me, screams "IM NOT OVER MY EX! WHYYYYYY DID WE BREAK UP!!! :((((( I MISS HIM SO MUCH!!! EVERY DAY IS LIKE AN ETERNITY!!!"

:)
Anyways, thats my personal take on your conversation.
Dont worry about not getting her number. she seems like a giant walking red flag to me


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:32 pm 
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Thank you all very much for the comments.

I will adjust my strategy accordingly!

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Ya man... A big rule is... once she objects DON'T PUSH SHIT. All it does is Pushes you away. Instead next time act like it doesn't bother you and move on.


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Not to hijack the thread

But i've tried to number close today on POF using that Perfect Game thread
And two different girls replied with:
"My phone's broken"

How to reply to this?
BUMP

2 Girls has now become 3.

I'm 3/3 reaching the final step of the Perfect Game thread that asks for a number, each replying:
Girl #1: Broke cell phone during a fight with the parents
Girl #2: I don't have a cell phone SPAM I lost it at a party and havn't replaced it yet
Girl #3: i broke my phone.i should have it running again soon.. so maybe then we can be text buddies.

Anyone? :S


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Well I don't like the canned routines so I'd say it's because you're not being real with the girls that they're not dishing up their number. Fair enough use it as an opener but then build some real rapport before number closing rather than just running lines and attempting to get the number.


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