31, tall, blonde, teacher (smart) From Craig's list, so in reality she could be a 60 yo fat gay guy but I'll give it a whirl. CL is loaded with flakes and fakes but this one seems legit.

This particular girl #closed in 3 rounds of messages. If it goes much longer than 3 rounds without a number or plans to meet up, I give up and move on. Those girls are probably not going to give you their phone number EVER no matter how witty or fun you seem to be, so it's not worth the effort. Steering the conversation towards a meet up is actually pretty easy. "Hey I'm not one of those guys who hangs out online all day" is a great way to both DHV and steer towards a #close or a meetup.

I've always had good luck #closing and f-closing with girls from online. Maybe it's because I like to write, and I spend time reading their emails and writing something funny, intelligent, and keep them asking them for more. It's also a crutch - I'll admit to that. I never liked or was very accomplished at approaching girls I don't know IRL. This forum is helping me get over that, but online girls help me get to A3/C1 a little more quickly which is where I know I'm really good. With good words and sexy playful energy on the first date, they get to sex pretty quickly. My record for an online date is heavy petting on the first meeting, sleep over sex on date #2.

I do NOT respond to girl's profiles. On sites like Craig's List, 99% are fake (the rest are BBWs - no lie). On Match.com, easily 50-75% are fakes, so writing to women on profile sites is a waste of time. I will put up a witty and fun profile and let the girls come to me. I think writing to get a girl's attention is a sign of weakness (supplication) because your response to her profile reinforces her feminine power. If a girl has to write to you, even though she feels like she has a choice (empowerment), she still needs to put herself out there. Even if my profile gets no traffic, it's better than writing to girls. When I lived in a larger city, I got tons of traffic on my profiles. I guess I need to calibrate down to what is reasonable for a smaller city, so in hindsight I'm still doing pretty well. Sadly, a lot of the girls are beastly (fat, unattractive, older than my mother, or all of the above) but half are 6 or better. A key to weeding out the fatties/uglies is to just say up front in your profile that you are very selective about you go out with from online. This is an immediate neg to the low sef esteem girls who will then not bother writing because their value score is already in the toilet. When I started doing this, my percentage of HBs went up pretty dramatically. Keep in mind, I'm no Hollywood actor or anything but just communicating a high value was enough to keep away the flies.

If you can afford it, eHarmony is actually pretty good. You have to go through a million questions but I seem to always get high quality smart dates and don't get a lot of flakes and no fakes. The problem is that it's basically a marriage site so you need to be prepared for the marriage/kids questions and be able to answer them in an artful way. This is Mr. McDreamy territory, more so than any other site, so prepare for a lot of rejection even if you are attractive, well mannered, educated, successful, etc. I think when girls are forced to spend a lot of money on a site they immediately raise their standards and will end communication with a guy for the tiniest little thing. eHarmony also doesn't reveal your height, weight, and time online, which is probably good for guys but also makes weeding out the fat, desperate, and needy girls a little more difficult.

Being cocky funny, using original material WITHOUT neg or if the neg is there is very slight, just to get them looking at their own insecurities a little bit. For instance, this chick I'm going out with is tall and I'm pretty short. She brought up the issue of height, but I was able to neg her very slightly by calling out "those other girls" who fixate on height, then DHV myself with the next topic of conversation. The tall chick fell in line and wants to meet up for drinks.

Another tip: my main picture is a bit serious looking - just a single, sort of closeup portrait in classy but casual clothes, close enough to where she can see my irises in my eyes. 50% of the time girls will ask something like "your sound so fun in your profile, why so serious in the photo?" The photos are just bait to keep the conversation sexual and playful. I always answer with "Those are my bedroom eyes... you like??" Hook.

DHV is important - women go online looking for Mr. Right and you need to understand that you're always Mr. Compromise because Prince Charming isn't online today. But having an attractive and accurate photograph and being witty and playful with writing can overcome other issues. Keep it general so that it appeals to a wide range of girls. Don't use jargon or high falutin language. Just be normal casual you. Keep it real by using some specifics like hobbies you know that are pretty popular and appeal to girls (cooking is #1 - girls love guys who can cook).

NEVER lie, exaggerate, use a fake picture or one that's really old or not representative of your actual features. Candids and casual portraits in normal street clothes are good. Formal portraits, pics of you in a suit or tuxedo = try hard. A secondary picture of you in a group setting with the others partially chopped out or blurred is good to (social proof). A picture of you with a girl in a sexual/intimate kino position (arms around each other, kissing your cheek, etc) is bad - girls immediately interpret this girl as "the ex". Using pictures of "the ex" to get the next girl is definitely DLV. No girl wants her picture used to help the guy get the next conquest, even if the girl in the picture was just a friend or whatever. Pictures of you being touchy with multiple females simultaneously is DHV - social proof, even if the girl in question IS a girlfriend it doesn't matter. Surround yourself with good looking, stylishly dressed people acting cool. Pictures of you with chumps, fatties, people dressed strangely or behaving like idiots = bad. Peacock in your photo if you want, but make sure someone else in the frame isn't peacocking MORE. Always blur faces.

Even if you are online, never respond immediately to an email message. Let it cool overnight, or if you get it in the morning, don't respond until the evening even if you are online. I've heard endless girls shit on guys who "spend all day online" so you don't want look like that guy (even if you are). If the girl wrote to you, she's probably having fun imagining your response and thinking about you in the time between messages. Building some tension with a dramatic pause increases the zip she gets when a new message shows up. You also need to be mindful of sites like OKCupid and Match that log and advertise your last visit. Girls look at that stuff and gauge your social proof by how much time you spend online. I try to let a week or so pass between logins to those sites unless there is a message waiting for me there.

I should also add I don't sarge on facebook. Something about it just feels creepy but maybe that's because facebook and it's kind are the territory of the younger generation. I work with college kids who are literally young enough to be my children if the ex-wife and I started having kids when we were first married.

Hopefully this was helpful.