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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:57 pm 
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Sorry about the length in advance.

Quick backstory as I am new to this particular forum. Essentially, I've grown tired of the field. It's gotten very boring and leaves me feeling extremely unchallenged. (thrill-seeking is my hard wired algorithm)
I've found online sarging to be refreshingly new, and fun despite it being looked down upon by every self-respecting pua I know. I was there as well, but it is not only different it almost feels like starting over from the beginning.

Anyway, I'm a film-maker and I get solicited online by 10's regularly, but I've found that approaching THEM over the internet seems to be an instant DLV spike. Causing me to have to qualify to them in the form of "Yes this is what I really do, and here is the evidence etc..."

Basically I'm calibrating my game here. And I've got a model, who's wanting to get into acting. I DID qualify myself to her, but have since flipped it and have been making her jump through my hoops.

We talked about shooting a short in December, WHICH WAS GOOD FOR HER. She's obviously working me, so I decided to rebound with a large compliance test. Telling her first I need her to do this, this is from the ACTUAL e-mail.

"in all honesty, I'm really not interested in just setting up a camera and going through the motions, so to speak. You've impressed me with your ability to command the screen, but as ALL my actors can attest, I want to challenge you. Push you to the core, until I see the absolute best that you have to offer.

I want to see you take it to the next level.

There is a very advanced acting technique I learned at Howard Fine. It's the premier acting school, probably second only to julliard, or AMDA if you're musical theater, but no one tops it for film acting.

Anyway, it's called employing transference. It's part of true method acting, and it develops your ability to be another person through exorcises like the one I'm about to show you.

Alex, this sounds like complete hocus pocus, but if you do it right I promise you, you will gain a WHOLE NEW perspective on acting. Caution though, it is designed to be personal and feel real, so when you're able to pull from it, your performance is personal and real.

Now I can only make it personal, it's your job to make it feel real, by visualizing it and feeling the emotions described. Ready to give it a try?

Okay STOP. Go to a quiet room, where you can be alone and no one can disturb you.

CLEAR YOUR MIND and take the time out to IMAGINE this. Take your time, go slow, and visualize every part and really feel the emotions.

Now imagine:

****"Pick something out about yourself that you like, something you are very confident about. Maybe your hair, your eyes, I don't know, maybe your penmanship. All that matters is that it is completely personal to you, Alex. Ya got it? Okay, now, imagine DESPITE being told by everyone for years this thing about YOU was AMAZING, let's say me, LIL' DWEEZY came along and you decided to share it with me. Now, concentrate on the feeling as you wait for my response. Count to three, concentrating on the anticipation of what I will say. Now, notice how all of a sudden, that confidence that you had disappears as you find yourself waiting for my approval. How, in those seconds as you are waiting for my response, me, Lil Dweezy, someone you've known for only a few months, has now become the MOST IMPORTANT PERSON in your life! It's completely crazy and you don't know why, but as you wait for my response, in this moment, it's like I'm the only person that exists. Like I have the only opinion that matters. Eagerly waiting for my response; to the point you're going to EXPLODE!!! Then, I look up at you, SMILE, and say yep Alex it's the most AMAZING thing I've ever seen! COMPLETE VALIDATION washes over you, like it is now confirmed. Really FEEL that EXCITEMENT!!!! Something that has always been evident to you is now, very strangely, confirmed by someone you've only known a few months..... Strange, but yet, exciting. Can you feel it?"*****

Okay, now come back to reality. lol...

Do it a couple of times until you are able to really feel the emotions.
Once you can really feel the emotions? I mean, like that moment really happened. Go in front of a mirror and do it again, paying close attention to your facial expressions....

What happens when the confidence leaves you?
What happens when you give control over to someone you barely know?
What happens when you feel like you are going to EXPLODE in anticipation?
And finally, what happens when you are finally validated?
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This is also a neural pattern simulating the inevitable teacher-student relationship that takes place between an actor or actress and their Director. By actually experiencing it, future exorcises that you draw up on your own time to pull a character from, will suddenly become believable. A.K.A. Alex is auditioning for a role as a bank robber. How do you get into character if you've never robbed a bank??? Edit the circumstances and attributed emotions in the exorcise and whala! It works like magic.
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So, either I've scared the living shit out of you and probably lost a friend or I've stoked the fire that burns within every die hard actor. I apologize, but it's impossible to accomplish one without risking the other.

So, which one is it?
P.S. December will work just fine if it's the second one. lol... "


Those of you versed enough will recognize the speed seduction implementation here and understand this is the ultimate compliance test as it's handing complete control over to me.

Okay now, seeing as you'll also notice me clearly weaken my frame trying to soften the delivery at the end and even APOLOGIZING! NOOb mistake. But without facial expression and vocal tonality it's VERY challenging when you go out on limps in online interactions. (Part of this reason I find it so new and exciting.)

My question is will some of you help me calibrate by RIPPING THIS APART. Analyze my e-mail (in bold), destroy it. Seriously, it's how I learn.
NO NOOBS PLEASE. I'd like the best of the best on this. People that know what they're talking about.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:25 am 
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Too bad you've limited yourself to ONLY MPUAs, because I'm absolutely sure there are several people here that are more than capable..


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Things we learn while gaming can be applied to everything that we do, not just picking up girls. PUA, is a way of life in more ways than most people understand. Because EVERYTHING in life is a game.

So, think of it, as a role-reversal-esque standard bitch shield.

If I can scare you away, you're not who I wanted advice from anyway.
Think about it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:49 am 
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lol trying to use pua techniques on a pua forum :P

you forget that anyone that does choose to answer you question must then consider himself a mpua. And that's just tasteless.

you never tell ppl you're the greatest son ever. you have others say that for you.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:43 pm 
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We're getting a bit off topic here, but in the interests of keeping the post active until I can correspond with an MPUA, I'll indulge some banter. However, let's keep this friendly. I'm not a fan of the usual, inspiring Alphas trying to get their cheap digs in to make themselves feel Alpha, knee-jerk reaction that always occur.

For the record, I value EVERYONE'S opinion and I do not think I'm better than anyone else.

I'd just like to learn from someone that knows what he's talking about, instead of a pretender. I don't think this is too much to ask. At least, I hope that it is not, and that it's not something that is seen as offensive on this forum. If so, I apologize, I meant no disrespect to the social order that frequents this forum.

Now on to the "friendly banter".
xiagox- "lol trying to use pua techniques on a pua forum"

Sure! Why not? Is there a better place to hone your game before going out into the field? This is the lab. The blue prints we draw up before we enter the field happens here, right? Nothing wrong with brain storming and challenging each other as long as it's done with good intentions. It's how we learn. With an OPEN MIND and a question or an objection.

"you forget that anyone that does choose to answer you question must then consider himself a mpua. And that's just tasteless.
you never tell ppl you're the greatest son ever. you have others say that for you."


SAYING you are a mpua, or bragging in general is instant DLV, granted, but people's assumptions are just THEIR assumptions. ASSUMING that one considers themselves a mpua just because they answer a question, is just that, an assumption. As pua's with strong frame work walk wherever they want to walk. If they encounter resistance, you simply disarm the obstacles and move on.

In the field, if a HB 10 says that she's only interested in ROCK STARS, would you walk away from the set because you deem interacting with her after her proclamation, tasteless, because everyone would think you consider yourself a rock star? OR, do you disregard the ignorance of the bitch shield, move in, understanding that every one around you ALREADY knows it was wishful thinking on her part anyway, and open, neg, then DHV????

The Venusian artist lives this, every moment of every day, and in EVERY interaction. While seducers try to simulate it just to get laid. It builds congruency and a naturally strong frame, which any mpua will tell you are the two MOST important attributes.

Thank you guys for your response.
However, I'd still like to converse with some of the forums mpua's if possible.

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