This is a lengthy, must read post.
Internet game.
I started Internet game before I got into personal self improvement. It was the only way out for me, the only way to meet women. I had it down, like you wouldn't possibly believe. The craziest pickup artist on this forum simply can't compete! I would meet women and within a hour we would be making out and 2 hours sex. And sex would be done anywhere, being 17-18 at the time, i would be happy for any place, the park, in the toilets, elevator, anywhere.
In about two years, i ended up meeting over 350 people off the net. Not many of you can compete with this number! My mind was wired to get the girl from anywhere around the world back to my place, so that we could keep each other company.
There were problems, very clear evident problems. First of all, over 90% of the women I met off the net did not match their display pictures very accurately. There was a time I met this beautiful looking (on pictures) Lebanese girl who ended up being 4`9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you imagine a 6`3 guy with a 4`9 midget? It was hilarious! There were many times where I just wanted to run, but what kept me going is that every meet up was a new and interesting learning experience.
Here is a example:
Story 1 (from memory)
And its always the bad once that we remember so clearly
! I met a girl and she had a 40 year old man with her, who she also met off the net! It was freaky as hell! Mind you this chick was mint, you all would classify her as a 7+! It was such a bizarre experience, which ended up with me and her shagging in the cinema and people somewhat cheering us on. Very retarted days! I simply had no idea who I was, what morals I had, where I was going, I was just a dumb kid in search to find women to have sex with.
Story 2
Another bizarre moment was when I met a beautiful white brunette girl (Leanne) for her birthday party. It was the first time i was meeting her and I was the first at the hotel where she was staying. We ended up going to her room and making out in the first 10 min, and I was set for meeting all her friends! So great, we go inside the club and all these randoms start coming in, who traveled half way from Australia to meet this chick off the net. It seemed as though she invited her entire MSN list! There was only 1 person in that entire room who was NOT meeting her for the first time. I thought to myself... fuck!!!!!
We ended up sleeping together in the same hotel room as her ex bf was pretending to sleep! he was in there by the way, somewhat in the corner, I think she was doing it to get him jealous. Then she left and I was watching TV, i felt bad for my man on the couch... and I got out of there as fast as I could! Deleted her number and never spoke to her again.
Story 3
I met a girl off HOT or NOT. Ages ago people who paid on there got laid. The people who didn't pay couldn't talk to anyone, only send winks! So anyway, after i accumulated 500 friends, I paid for 1 month and instantly super spam messaged the fuck out of everyone with my MSN address. And set up dates to meet every single one of those women. I look back and I just shake my head, these people were coming all from Australia to visit Sydney, but in reality it was to meet me! None of them were over a 6, even though their display pictures made them look like 10's! I felt so betrayed! But I went along with it, more sex is not a bad thing a mans books now is it?
Story 4
I talked to a girl for 5 months, who was a model in England only for her to delete me off her profile when she came to Sydney. I didn't see or hear from her again until last month when i hooked up with her and she never remembered who I was (not that I made it a point to tell her).
Story 5
I met a chick called Dominique and I literally fucked her in broad day light in the park, while her red haired christian friend was watching.
Story 6
I met a girl off the net, after a solid 3 weeks of talking to her! (She had never met anyone of the net before), and the way she wanted to meet brought everything into perspective.
She said; "Okay, Ill be in central station at exactly 6:30 pm, I'm going to be carrying my bag which im going to drop on the floor when I see you, your then going to come over and pickup the stuff with me and we can meet! Then we can go to my friends birthday at "Cheers"(pub) in the city and you can meet them"
That more or less said, I don't want to be seen or know for meeting people of the net by anyone. We met but it was ment to be totally offhanded.
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I have allot of bizarre stories, allot of good and bad stories, I mean come on, I met a ample amount of people. But do you know what i discovered???... I discovered that the net must be abolished completely. It doesn't serve anyone, especially YOU!
1.) Women are never the same over the net as they are in real life. If you get negative responses on the net, and you meet that exact person in real life, its a completely different story. So the internet can't be a medium for your ego or self worth. Many people get in the habit of making the internet their life, and hence become so dependent on the outcome of the meaningless interactions that they forget who they are.
2.) The internet is not reality, its not life, its a excuse for those who can't go out and meet women normally. Remember LIFE, is precious, its there to be lived, internet has no real fabric, we can't live life through it.
3.) Women NEVER look the same in real life. Ever met a girl and she looks completely different to her display picture? know what I'm talking about... yep!...
4.) You don't develop yourself as a man at all if you are on the net. More true words simply cant be spoken. If you vegetate behind your desk, your subconscious matrix learns to make that your world. You begin to play cards that are not in your best interests. You basically rot away!
5.) Women who meet men off the net are generally incapable of meeting men in real life. Again the women you meet are generally not capable of attracting very hot men! It can happen, you can meet hot women off the net, but my goodness, just go out to the mall. They are everywhere! Why wont you develop the skill set to meet them there, rather sit behind your computer and develop copy paste.
6.) INTERNET IS COPY PASTE, real life is hard work. As the point above, I don't know how you all ran internet game, but id would add as many women as i could, and span the same lines! I still have my internet word pad, its a document with lines, stories, from attraction, to connection. I literally copy pasted stuff! I became like some type of phone administrator, you hear the first 2 words of the customer and you transfer him right away. There was no interactions, there was just copy paste, almost like women were hooked up to this feed, and I'm talking to 50 of them at a time, pasting, pasting, pasting, pasting. And you know what the sad part is, 70% of the time (maybe) it would work.
If you compare that to reality... my goodness! That's why I DON'T use this stuff anymore.
7.) INTERNET GAME IS ALL ABOUT DESCRIBING WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF IT WASN'T INTERNET GAME. Again, any successful internet porn star would know that the way to get a woman is to describe hardcore body language.
*Leans over and bites your shoulder*
in the middle of talking, shit like this. Why describe it while you can go out and do it?
8.) It takes 20 times as long to secure a internet date AS you would a real date (IF YOUR AWSOME AT NET GAME). I had a competition with a friend of mine who is a online pickup artist. We both had a stop watch, I would go out and meet women on the street and secure a date, while he would secure one off the net. Now this guy is friggen cluey, hes met even more women then me! He has paid accounts on sites and spends serious money for professional photography photos and videos of him to instantly "convince" women (note not attract). It took 7 minutes to secure a instant date, it took him over 2 hours to get the girl to meet him that week.
9.) Internet requires hard work and dedication. Again internet does require that, it requires you to be on all the time, be witty, cool, smart... It really demands allot and the pay out is incredibly minimal. Its communication with your head, not your body and vibe, presence, attraction, subconscious and conscious etc...
10.) Women don't like meeting men off the net. Most women would be so embarrassed to meet a guy off the net. Imagine having to explain that to your friends?? So it takes allot longer to get something going, IF she even gives you a chance to start with.
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This has to be one of my more ugly posts! I don't know if Its even useful, or if it will do any good. But when i look back for the reason as to why id NEVER do online game ever again, about 50 pop up, and I've listed a good 10 of them here.
I don't use myspace, i don't even have myspace anymore, I don't use facebook, I don't have twitter, I don't have bebo, or anything that would put me in this position again. I only meet women naturally, and there is absolutely no excuse for you NOT to develop the skills it takes to meet women naturally too.
We as human beings adapt in our environment, if you lived in a box for 10 years, when you come out of it, you will feel very awkward. When you go to clubs all the time, sitting at home will feel strange! Our mind focuses on what we do with our fullest potential. So I say, let your potential flow in a area of your life which matters, and let it go out where life is!
Phone game
Now lets address this piece of shit. Simply put, there is no reason for you to be on the phone with women. Again with allot of internet game, i got extremely good at this. I could make a girl masturbate over the phone with me in about 4-10 minutes time. Shed tell me that I'm crazy, and pursue to do more things to herself, while I was over the phone recording the conversation to show to my friends!
I figured out how to listen to women's voices, and tell which women were down for this stuff and which weren't. I knew that if i made a woman masturbate over the phone with me she would either want to see me right away and fuck, or she would be embarrassed to ever meet me.
There is so much more that I simply don't feel would even be appropriate for this forum! but suffice you to say, talking to women on the phone after a ridicules amount of experience has taught me that its not worth it. None of you should ever practice "phone game" or figure out ways to get her to do anything over it. These days I send maybe 1 SMS to the girl that I'm seeing to inform her exactly where I want her to be, what i want her to wear and what time she has to be in. I don't do anything else over it!
This whole area I'm talking about is in the black, internet game and phone game has never been the good parts of this industry! this is the scummiest, lowest part! And you should all just avoid it...
Its almost like a hooker ie..me, telling wanna be hookers to avoid it and learn the beauty of themselves and how they should develop to become women. I feel so uncomfortable even writing most of this stuff! But thats only scratching the shit I've done over it!
Let me ask you something, what if you could avoid all this garbage, and be with the best most perfect girl for you any time! That's simply the beauty of going out, it has nothing to do with this phone shit, or the internet! Its simply going out to embrace the beauty of the world and share your beauty with it.
Again truly ugly post.
I hope sincerely that something is gotten out of it for someone out there. I understand the positives youll list on here in regards to both, but from my experience, you simply don't need any of it! Trust me it will make you a far more happy, productive, fun, interesting individual, to focus on what matters and go that direction.
And the only thing that really matters is living your life, talking to women face to face, avoiding the net, and avoiding the phone at all times.
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PS: I forgot to mention that the flake rate is 100% higher then it is in real life.
Peace
CHAT
