Hey hey hey hey Pua's, Mpua's and afc's alike...just thought i'd post a convo for you guys to read and give feedback if you feel too...its long, so be warned!!!!

Background: she is a school friends relative known her since i was about 14ish, she is older. we have been role playing for ages, almost 9months through facebook, she was online so i thought i' try a different approach to gaming through fb chat. Personally i think i got ioi's, LMR, at the same time...feedback if you will

Jeremy
oi smelly entertain me im bored

23:39Bob
u want me to dance for you?

23:39Jeremy
depends if u can dance, if u cnt then there aint much point

23:39Bob
does the running man in shame
i can dance
i just feel shame

23:40Jeremy
y shame?

23:41Bob
because u want me to entertain u
like a whore

23:41Jeremy
nah, i'd be payin u if u were a whore, this is all for free

23:42Bob
so u admit u pay women for sex?

23:43Jeremy
no but that is what a whore is, stop tryin to be smart, ur still my ex wife

23:43Bob
i still love u

23:44Jeremy
i can tell, u show it in only ways that some ppl can understand, like throwing a fryin pan

23:46Bob
i can't stand to see u with other girls
u'll always be mine
and that frying pan was yours too

23:49Jeremy
i could tell, it was coming str8 for me :-s why r u up so late and not in bed neway, u know how u get with lack of sleep

23:51Bob
it's cos u're not here
if nobody's farting next to me and beating me in my sleep, it doesn't feel like home

23:52Jeremy
i'll make sure i beat it well 2night then

23:53Bob
beat "it" well?

23:53Jeremy
sorry i ment u

23:54Jeremy
apart from thinkin about me, what u doin 2morrow?

23:54Bob
same as everyday. parking outside ur yard. prank calling u.

23:55Jeremy
awww that wud depend on u having my number, we should exchange

23:55Bob
i already have it
i';ve always had it
can't u tell it's me?

23:55Jeremy
well i dnt have urs so u shud give me urs so i know to pick up next time

23:56Bob
i like private calling
1 ringers
just to see if your phone is on
i get turned on knowing u have to put ur hand in your pocket for me
know what i mean

23:57Jeremy
instead on u puttin ur hand in my pocket, hmm

23:58Bob
there'd be no room for my hand. i reckon

23:58Jeremy
i wonder who u been tlkin to

23:59Bob
i saw it mentioned on the public toilet walls in one stop

23:59Jeremy
oh and there was me thinkin it was cuz u were once my wife

Today
00:00Bob
we never consemated the marriage.
what happened that night was just u falling over and knocking me out. with your fist

00:01Jeremy
oh i thought u passed out due to excitment, my bad

00:02Bob
i did. proper turn on that was. but when i woke u left with all my money

00:02Jeremy
yeah only to buy u breakfast in bed

00:03Bob
oh
i was at the copshop by then
wow, you're so good to me

00:03Jeremy
thats one of the reasons u married me

00:06Bob
that and cos i heard something about black men

00:07Jeremy
u never found out tho its such a shame

00:07Bob
no i did. u conf it when u hit me and stole my money
but it's cool. it's all foreplay baby

00:08Jeremy
but i came back with food so thats not tru, and it werent chicken either so noe of that...

00:08Bob
aaawe
do my racist jokes upset u? on a level...

00:10Jeremy
nah u get a pass

00:10Bob
ok cool

00:10Jeremy
ur stiill racist

00:10Bob
i just realised, i do post a lot of that shit up on your profile. so i hope nobody else sees it and gets vexed

00:11Jeremy
are u feelin self concious right now?

00:11Bob
no
just thought i'd address the issue rather than assuming everyone thinks racism is funny like me

00:12Jeremy
yeah better not say that on my profile

00:12Bob
hehe
i so love u dude
can't believe i watched u grow up
into a bigger boy

00:13Jeremy
what u mean bigger...
is this some black person seterotypin again?

00:14Bob
no.
i mean. ur voice broke
n hair grew in funny places
like ur elbows n stuff

00:15Jeremy
same for u really, hair grew on ur toplip, i still love u tho

00:15Bob
hey, i grew it out only cos u asked me

00:16Jeremy
no that must have been the dude u cheated on me with, pablo the french baker

00:16Bob
he wasn't a french baker
he smelt that way only after he'd been with me

00:17Jeremy
yeast infection?

00:17Bob
yeah. it helped him save a fortune in his bakery being with me

00:18Jeremy
neway i 4gave u for cheatin we both did it, we should get back together, we were alwasy good 2gether and u know the sex was always good

00:19Bob
the sex we never had?
how could i have slept with u? you were 11!

00:20Jeremy
yeah, but it'll cum, u know what they say about break up to make up
we got marrid so young

00:20Bob
yeah. u were 11. i was 34...
good times, good times

00:21Jeremy
thats illegal, at least make it 16

00:21Bob
ok ok
we got married at 16
but i started dating u at 11

00:22Jeremy
u got a thing for children hey

00:22Bob
no no
i have a thing for all things that are wrong....

00:23Jeremy
that must include asian girls and black guys then evidently

00:24Bob
hehe, what can I say. I'm a sucker for gettin hurt

00:25Bob
god i'm actually hungry

00:25Jeremy
hmmm depends what u mean by gettin hurt

00:25Bob
but it's bed time

00:26Jeremy
so early? u have no stamina!!!

00:26Bob
i just mean, i tend to go after ppl i'm not allowed and then have to deal with the arsey hassle of letting go
early, i knnow
but last night it was 1.30
day before it was 2
satuday it was 7am

00:27Jeremy
oh what were u doin at 7am with out me hey

00:27Bob
hehe
nothing, just chillin

00:28Jeremy
hmmm if u say so, however i say u shud give me ur number

00:28Bob
r u actually coming onto me?

00:28Jeremy
well we do tlk dnt we
its usually what ppl do

00:28Bob
on facebook
when you're bored and want me to entertain u

00:28Jeremy
ok u can stay a facebook friend if u wnt

00:29Bob
i don't mean it like that
we just don't chat about real things, know what i mean?

00:29Jeremy
yeah can always start tho

00:29Bob
true

00:30Jeremy
so...

00:30Bob
chat to me next time on facebook, on a level. k?
then we'll see
i'm not saying no tjp
*tho

00:30Jeremy
sounds lke a no to me haha

00:31Bob
it's a no for now lol

00:32Jeremy
a now for now? hmmm, how would a no be change to a yes?

00:32Bob
as in yeah, i'll give u my number eventially

00:33Jeremy
so if i meet ur standards u mean

00:33Bob
but chat to me on a level on facebook 1st is what i'm saying
standards?
jeremy, don't get me wrong, but do u think something's gonna happen between us?

00:34Jeremy
lol on a level. u keep talkin like we workin out a relationship, we just talkin

00:36Bob
i mean chat to me normally. like this
without chattin about our pretend relationship

00:36Jeremy
yeah ok, is that important to u?

00:37Bob
what, is chattin important to me?
doesn't matter
*posts me her number*

00:38Jeremy
chattin to u normally

00:38Bob
when u feel like it.
me gonna jump into bed

00:38Jeremy
what hapened to next time?

00:39Bob
you're harmless
but i'd like to get to know who u were as a person too
just stick to texting for time being if poss
i'm gonna run dude

00:41Jeremy
night smelly

00:41Bob
nite nite! x

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'You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.' Albert Einstein

Hey man~

I could tell from the playful banter you guys got up that you're both witty and would be huge fun in a conversation. Props for that~

But I'd say that towards the end, when it switched to Serious Mode all of a sudden was when it started goin downhill. What I always do is to keep chat stuff either light and playful, like you did in the beginning, or heavy only if you're talking bout yourself and not you and her. I'd save any talk that's meant to phase-shift solely for face-to-face contact, coz then you'd have the advantage of body language and tonality and space and all that. Way it happened in this convo is that you got a bit needy when it came to getting her number. I'm not a huge expert on online game myself but I always keep the playful energy up throughout the convo and retain the frame that I'm havin fun, that I'm not seeking her reaction in anyway, that I'm just enjoying the conversation as it is. And man,

00:30Jeremy
sounds lke a no to me haha

Is a very, very, very transparent display of disappointment. Always make it to be her loss to not wanna exchange numbers. Always. I usually go CF here, or even just C sometimes. I know you got the wit to say it, just keep the vibe from the early parts up till the very end.

In the end I'd say it was a really good interaction up until you displayed disappointment and value-seeking when you asked for her number. I ain't the best guy herel; heck, I'm prolly near the bottom 10 but what I'd always do is to keep all phase-shifting in Real Life. Chatting and Phonecalls are for stories. Period.

Lookin forward to seeing what the more experienced guys here have to say

hey man, thanks for the reply, i'm not to bothered about her, i never see her face to face or anything so i thought i'd game it and practice. i didnt think i was value seeking, i didnt really care if i got the number, but i see how it could be taken that way.

I think i got confused because she started asking about if i thought something was going to happen etc, which i always take as an ioi...if they are asking you if you think there is a reationship, that means they have thought of it themself also in some way good or bad...?hmm i dunno.

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'You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.' Albert Einstein