Hey guys,
I'm having a bit of a problem with online stuff.
Firstly, I have trouble coming up with good openers. I use sites like myspace and facebook. I read on JSmooth's thread that he prefers to go direct, so I took his advice and wrote in the subject ''So...'' and then I wrote in the message ''I know this is random and we don't know eachother, but you're really pretty/gorgeous(I experimented by using each of those), I just had to come and tell you or I knew I'd be kicking myself. I'd like to chat you sometime, write back with your msn if you wanna...''. I had a few responses from this, but not as many as I'd hoped. I'd say like 3/10 girls respond to this. Is this a good opener do you think? Or whatt would you suggest I use?
Secondly, I have a problem with knowing when and how to get girls I'm having a good interaction with offline. I've had a few girls that I've been really interested in over that past few weeks that I've talked to a lot on msn, and they seemed to like me too. I also got their numbers easily. The problem with every one I think I've waited too long to meet them in real life, as they've all got boyfriends now. Another girl I'm talking to right now I was gonna meet with about a month ago but I never did for some reason and now she's just had a moan at me because I didn't make the effort to see her and another guy who lives further away than I do is seeing her tomorrow. That's what's got me writing this now LOL.
So how many messages, or how long should I wait before inviting the girl to come hang out or come and do something with me?
How can I tell she's interested enough to want to meet up? (I'm guessing if she gives me her number she's interested. Probably answering my own question here tbh, but I'd still love your opinion)
Also what would you suggest is a good place or thing to invite her to?
Please help?
Thanks guys

Well half the battle is just getting a girl to respond. That's always my biggest challenge personally. Once you are talking it should be pretty easy from there. It sounds to me like you personally need to learn DHV. When you're talking to a girl tell her some good stories, be interesting and don't be afraid to just talk. Believe me when you first talk to a girl on the phone you must be the one to do most of the talking. Once shes comfortable she will just start blabbing away. Anyway it should just be natural that she wants to meet if you are having a good conversation on the phone. Just tell her that you want to meet up. I would say after talking 2 or 3 times you should be good to go for meeting her in person. Well hope that helps a little.