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Hey guys the name is Jamie V aka bigjamiemac...I was introduced to this sight by jsmooth,I had a question for him about a hb that i messaged and she had a response for for me,so i wanted to see how he would answer and I would take it all in and see what I could come up with..I thought i would share with all the newbies to show you if you have a question and are willing to listen and learn the pua pros are willing to help...So this is how it went....

Ok i sent this message to a hb 6 and a half a few days ago she just responded..I want to use your method of messaging her back so when you get a chance to respond i will take what advice you have given in then I will respond to her...But this is what has been done already...I used one of my favoright online dating site openers..I saw the hb had nothing ritten about herself,but had a few interests listed so i saw she was into baseball and so am I.......I am a huge Chicago Cubs fan..Dunno if you know much about baseball but there is 2 teams in Chicago the sox being the other team...


subject line-I saw you was into baseball...


message- so who's your team?



her -I am a sox fan..lol


I haven't sent this yet.....

"me so far-Ohh no im sorry lol..Well atleast your team is in the same town as my favoright team...NO worries i will not hold ur team to you..Well other than your favoright team,I took a look at your profile and let me tell ya,you look alot more sociable in your pictures.I am so glad you shared what you shared about yourself on your profile..lol...I have noticed we had a few things we both have in common,although I don't list them exactly on my profile because I could wright a book about all my interests.."


My question to you is what i rote so far worthy enuff of sending or do i need more?Should I continue the topic or go into another routine?See her profile has only this


Interests: travel, movies, animals, walks, cars, baseball


Profession: Insurance


She doesn't leave any hent other than her interests ..She is looking for a man for relationship and she is fairly close to me...I just want to basically see how you would go about the reply and give me your thoughts,so i can see what i need to do to make it better and such....I find you to be the best pua,i guess you are my Guru who I look up to..I really like your style and your game you share with us all....I am not the copy and paste kind of guy,I want it to come from me...I am very picky about that..Like you had stated in another post "she will eventually see the real you in person" I just want to do just that show her the real me...Any help you would dish out I will take it all in...



Thanks Alot for taking the time to read this...



Jamie V. (bigjamiemac)


Thanks for the kind words. I would have responded sooner but I had a girl over.

This is what I would send. It's almost exactly what you wrote, however, I correct a few spelling and grammer mistakes. You did a good job of saying thing that would build rapport. But we need to add in things that build attraction too. So, I started with the "I can't believe I'm still talking to you..." as a false disqualifer. Then I inserted the fact that you take your friends out, which is a leader of men spike. I could put more but we want to keep it simple. Finally, at the end I wanted to ask her a question to get her talking and open her up. And I added the slight neg of don't say princess to what you want to be.


Oh I'm sorry you're a Sox fan, I can't believe I'm still talking to you. Well, at least your team is in the same town as my favorite team. Well other than your favorite team, I took a look at your profile. You look alot more sociable in your pictures. I am so glad you shared what you wrote about yourself on your profile. LOL. I have noticed a few things we both have in common, although, I don't list them exactly on my profile because I could write a book about all my interests. I am constantly going out with my friends taking them places. The one thing that I am wondering the entire time I'm looking at what your interests are is what is your passion? If you could end up doing anything at all in the world what would it be? By the way don't say princess.



We're going to get off the baseball topic pretty quickly. We just needed that to break the ice, and we've done that. Again, this is what you wrote we are just adding a few small things in there.

You wrote enough. She is now going to start talking about her life's passion which is where we want to further ground into her reality by picking things out of it where you are similar to her. Then it gives you a chance to talk about your passions in life and what you like to do. Instant conversation as long as she responds back! Pretty soon we are going to want to try to escalate this to talking through Instant Messenger. The next time we respond back to on of her messages it'd be a good idea.

Hope it helps man,

Jon

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damn your good!!!
From bigjamiemac To JSmooth, Yesterday at 8:48 am

So i have to give you props i sent the email you helped on when i got home at 5..I looked online for a while decided to go fix sum grub on the grill...When i got back inside i had a message from the hb here is what it said lol...Man you are really gifted thats why I admire your work/style so much...


LOL! Your funny. I have alot of interests too. I am the kinda girl when something comes up and it sounds good, i jump on it! I do have a college degree, which i am not using, right now i am working at state farm and studying to get my licence (Like I said, I probably wont do that forever, but its a good start) I just moved here from basically Chicago, NW IN. And I do love the Sox but the Cubs come in a close 2nd, I just love baseball in general, I think its a great game, I love to go see the Indians play as well. Hmm if you could do anything, and i will add you read my mind, princess is a good career choice.... but if i had to do something else, it would be not work and just travel... ok but i guess that is not a choice either.... I love animals so probably something to do with that... hope i answered your question. What do you do for a living/what do you want to do. Where do you like to hang out, what do you like to do, and feel free to be as detailed as you like!



Ok J I basicaly want to try and decypher the codes or the game hiddin in her message.SO i was gonna try and pic them out of this message and see if i'm reading her,then try to figure out from what you say I did guess and what I missed..Then I will do my own message and I will let you read what i came up with .I really hope you don't get mad from me buggin you cus i know your a busy man and all that but i feel your the only one that would be willing to help in this situation hence your online gaming skillz..

Ok basicaly the first few sentences are filled with ioi's and interests..then she throws in a dhv spike with her degree..Then she throws a soi by mentioning the cubs again and saying she really likes the game..Then she throws a hint of a possible day-2 with the mentioning of a indians game(the local baseball team in indy)....Then she shows another ioi....Then i dont know the termenolgy but she leaves her self open for a neg..Then she ends with a bunch of soi's....I hope i saw them all I have a feeling of what i want to say,but i dont want to say it then push her away or what not...This is the first time i have broke a message down like this so im curious is to how i did on the read lol....Ok before i send this to you i wanted to let you know,I sent that hb who responded with whats up buttercup,I sent notta much captain crunch.. lmao...Well to my surprise she responded with her # Not bad if i dont say so myself hahaha Thanks j




Re: damn your good!!!
From JSmooth To bigjamiemac, Yesterday at 11:29 am

bigjamiemac wrote:
LOL! Your funny. I have alot of interests too. I am the kinda girl when something comes up and it sounds good, i jump on it! I do have a college degree, which i am not using, right now i am working at state farm and studying to get my licence (Like I said, I probably wont do that forever, but its a good start) I just moved here from basically Chicago, NW IN. And I do love the Sox but the Cubs come in a close 2nd, I just love baseball in general, I think its a great game, I love to go see the Indians play as well. Hmm if you could do anything, and i will add you read my mind, princess is a good career choice.... but if i had to do something else, it would be not work and just travel... ok but i guess that is not a choice either.... I love animals so probably something to do with that... hope i answered your question. What do you do for a living/what do you want to do. Where do you like to hang out, what do you like to do, and feel free to be as detailed as you like!


I think you did a good read on this. There are lots of IOIs and a few DHV spikes embeded in here. I'm not sure if the Indians thing is really a positioning for a day 1 or not but hey you never know. Time will tell on that one. She is obviously very interested in you and she asked you a shit load of questions and we just asked her one. That's always a good sign when they ask about us. The key here now is to big it away in bits. Like if you have a piece of cheese and you're leading a rat to a trap you make a bunch of small pieces and then one big piece at the end. So we can be detailed but we're going to be a little hard to get.

Anyways, here is something like I might say. "Holy Shit, you're getting really personal here! You want to know where I work, and hang out. Are you trying to stalk me already? LOL. Well, I guess that's a risk I'm just going to have to take but I warn you girl I come from the school of Kung Fu Fighting. "

We're just pushing her away a bit but we're being obviously playful about it so she knows we're not being an asshole we're just being fun and playful. Then go ahead and answer her questions to whatever degree you like. I wouldn't write a novel but I'd give her some information because that's perfectly normal to do. Whenever you can incorporate some DHV spikes when you talk about your work, where you hang and stuff like that. This is a great time to do this. At the end I'd ask for her number or IM. Maybe say, "Okay, as much as I love typing it's starting to wear on me a bit, do you text? I bet you like have a degree in texting do you? Give me your number so that we continue this conversation later." Any kind of thing like that. I've been experimenting with using texting as a medium between email and calling instead of IM because you already have her #.

Hope it all helps. It's about 11:30 and I got home from a great meal and some great sex with a nice woman. I'm going to hit the hay!

Peace



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