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and halfway through

M:!'ve got all I need to know ;-P But guess what you're fun and quite creative! Do you wanna come home with me?
H:A bit forward
M:It was just a joking way of asking if you wanted to go out some time for a drink or go bowling
H:Fair enough
H:Message...

What the fuck does she mean by the last message lol. Has me really confused. I know you are meant to hold and not explain yourself in the apocalypse opener but I wasn't using IM and it had been 2 hrs between posts. Should I just follow up with "So do you want to go out sometime for a drink in [location]" ?

Is this online or in person? I don't think thats clear.

I know that when you're doing the apocalypse opener its something that you do while in person. Its more about the audacity of the moment, and the holding frame without caving in when a girl suggest you're being forward.

Who cares what the last message meant.. Interpret it in a way thats for you best benefit. What did you follow up with?

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I had the same hope.

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I was planning on saying "Wait...I have to give you a massage before I can take you out? " Something along them lines but I am still trying to decipher in my head what the fuck this cryptic message means lol.

Also every time I use the apocalpyse opener I get a maybe or it is a bit forward maybe English girls aren't as open as American girls that he used online-sarging/topic126158.html

They don't seem as playful as the girls he chats too and give me little to go on from the questions. Thanks for the tips guys.

Okay, is this a typo on your part or a typo on her part?

So you knew she said a massage? as in, oil on hands an touching?

If that was the case, it's not cryptic:

You - ' Okay, why not. I am not gonna opt for the happy ending though, I am not that easy '

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It means she likes your game,style,look ect but you are going too fast. More specifically "not out of the race yet, cool your guns let's talk a little bit first" aka the Slut Shield. I got "message" a lot from girls that are younger when I was younger too, they think they are being funny or something.

Here is a good example, ever have that girl you KNOW is super into you? she responds to ANYTHING YOU SAY. Even if it's just a simple, "Lol k" text back to her she will respond something like "C:" or "lol" when there is absolutely no point in saying something back. This is the equivalent of "message".

What you should do, an average man would ask a question to get the conversation going again, DONT. That whole "so what do you do for fun" right then and there just amplifies the awkwardness of the situation. Any time a girl says something that is awkward or you dont want to answer just simply say "Lol" and switch it back to her with attraction.

"Lol. I swear if your bedroom is a mess I wont ever talk to you again"
Something like that. You are probably gonna get a "lol what" or "??" <-- probably this if you replied quick but since it took you so long you might not get a reply (attraction window closes fast with these attention seekers). Then I DHV and this is how I DHV "I am not kidding every girl I ever met has a dirty bedroom! I once stepped on a lego in a girls bedroom! A LEGO, that probably wasn't cleaned since Elementary school!". I like long stories, it looks more credible instead of the "My ex girlfriend's nose wiggled just like that" okay good for her? In fact you probably believed that story of the Lego. When in fact it's 100% just made up for this post but I have used something similar with dirty cars and it works to great sucess.

Good luck.

This is good. This is the problem with your frame. In other words the mentality you project is "I have to do something to win her over."

Say something like, "I have the lotion, but we have to keep it above the waist."

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