Sorry I have been gone for a while I know you guys have missed me terribly. Anyway ya I had a real relationship for a bit but realizing my mistake I'm back in the game.

So I would like the opinions of some senior, experienced successful guys. I'm not looking for random advice from new guys, obviously my game is pretty good but Ive had an usual problem of late and any experienced online successful players may be able to help me with some sage advice.

Ive had online date steaks where I've f-closed up to 4 in a row with girls ostensibly "looking for a relationship" and not priming the dates with much filtering or screening. I don't think this is especially exceptional among experienced guys. However after a recent cold streak consisting of having to make 2 second dates to f-close and going out with 2 no go's in a row I want to add some more more filtering and screening to insure that i'm actually going out with a DTF girl even if she obviously isn't saying that. Remember most of these girls are just 5-7's and I have good game so most of them end up liking me but I want to f-close 75% of them rather then my recent bad streak which has dropped down to about 35% on the first date. The truth is I'm too lazy in my old age and experience level to waste my time on money on three mediocre chicks only to close out one of the first date.

So what filtering and screening techniques have you used to somewhat insure that if you run good game on a chick she is down to have sex on the first date although it isn't explicitly stated or implicitly implied. As a note I actually have a very good screening technique for DTF's but its only applicable when the date is assured, I want to screen and filter out the "first date don't fuck" girls earlier in the process if possible.

If you find out let me know

Dont they usually have casual or no commitment in their profiles?

well I have moved to the "just dating" tag which certainly helps (per capita) but as you know it also limits your options right off the bat audience wise, and as you also know there are plenty of "looking for a relationship" girls that are DTF.

If I figure something out I will post it.

I feel that nearly EVERY girl is DTF given your game is good enough. I have banged over 100 women from online, and I don't think that any of them had "no committment" or "casual sex" as what they were looking for.
The women who put that are typically
a. ugly
or
b. fake

The few actual high value women who go online to openly pursue casual sex will be hard to capture because you're competing with literally everyone else on the app. We all know our eyes light up when we see that they're looking for sex and smell blood in the water.

Don't pay attention to what girls say they're looking for. It's your job as a man to show them what they want. I once had a girl who put in her profile that she wanted to take things slow and was seeking "long-term dating" only. She also specifically put not to contact her if you are looking for FWB.

Well, I met her out for coffee and after a 20 minute chat I banged her in her car. I ended up seeing her exclusively to hook up for the next few months.

So basically... if you see a pretty girl who you would like to hook up with... meet up with her! Don't filter your results any further than that

Brandnew Im not brand new. Ive hooked up with a lot of woman online, although not 100 yet. Anyway no I don't believe "any of them are DTF with good enough game" on the first date. That is my specific issue if you reread my post. Like the chick I went out with last week who has been with a total of 3 guys? Ya I don't think she was gonna give me the pussy right off the bat sorry, and if you went out with her I still dont think you would have fucked her the first date. Anyway you may want to reread my post and see if you have any specific advanced advice, I don't need basic rahrah shit t this point in my game.

I did read your initial post and what you're asking isn't really realistic. In general, I do believe that it's possible to achieve a same-day-lay with 75% of online girls but it isn't something you can really screen for or guarantee. Ignoring the rare outlier who will talk about hooking up right away and then follow through with it, you actually do have to earn the seduction in person to get the pussy prize. I'm sorry that you think this is too much work but it really doesn't require much.

Why is it so important that you bang on the first date? Just to save time and money? For the ultimate low-effort, low-cost, and low-investment way to get laid online, I usually do it in two dates.

Date 1 is a brief meetup for coffee. It's cheap and doesn't take long. Your goal is to build rapport and intrigue, and then cut the date short and make out with the girl at her car. This takes maybe an hour at the most. After you get that out of the way, if you did your job, the girl will be invested in wanting to see you again. Now you have the leverage and you can go for a typical "let's hang out and watch a movie" night. Girls will be way more receptive to this once they've already met you.

If sex absolutely needs to happen on date 1, then what I would do is go out for drinks and offer to pick them up. Use the angle that you feel like it's proper/gentlemanly to pick your date up. Obviously though, the reason you do this is so you have easier access to their vaginas after drinking.

Go for the drinks and after rapport is developed turn the conversation sexual. Transition to talking about sex in a joking manner so as not to seem creepy but make sure it's on the girl's mind. Also make sure you do some kissing. Take the girl home, go inside her place because you have to piss, and bang her.

There is so sure way to tell, the women minds are like maze. Why seat there stressing yourself out while you can just literally message them with something slightly sexual such as "what is the most adventurous thing you have done with a guy?" - or just meet up with them and escalate - worst case scenario they say no or reject your advance then you can try again after a few minutes or later dates.

Second, don't listen your conventional wisdom or your logical inner voice. Doesn't matter how many guys she has been with before, if you let you escalate, you can push for sex. It's that simple. I don't know how receptive that girl you mentioned was but I'd just go for it. Rather take a shot then playing a nice guy and 2 weeks later you heard she fucked this one dude and now dating him.

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Ya good points, I did actually ask her to come home to meet the cat. I am in the habit of always asking them to come home even if they are just mediocre prospects after a mediocre date. Of course with the real shitty ones I just end the date after about 45 minutes and shake their hand goodbye. I just need a few more screening techniques to make things a little bit easier. If I come up with some good stuff that's effective ill post it.