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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:06 am 
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So I had sent a couple of messages to a girl on pof but never heard back from her. Then the other day I saw she was online and figured what the hell let's send another one.

So I sent "hello, how are you? Staying warm with all this cold weather?"
Her response "idk"
Me "You don't know?... I know I'm not, its too cold"
Me again "cute pics btw"

A couple min later she sends "wyd?"

So I'm think to myself... Wtf? Lol

So my response "I'm just relaxing right now, how about you?"
Her "chilling, where you from?

I respond and ask her the same and she responds

Some little chit chat back and forth with what we like to do etc then I say

"You seem to be pretty easy going like me"
Her "yea, I am"
Me "That's cool. Maybe we can meetup sometime when your free"
Her "Yea, I'm always free"
Me "Always free, that works"
Her "yea"

So in thinking, let's close this up lol

Me "well I'm free tonight"
Her "oh you are, too bad I don't meet at night with people I met online"

I figure that is fair and respond
"Oh, no problem I completely understand. Maybe we can meet tomorrow morning between my appointments?"

I got nothing back from her and that was sent 1100pm Tue night.

So wed, I wait to see if I get anything from her and nothing. So I send this at 230pm

"Good afternoon, how are you today?"
About 30 min later she responds "I'm ok"
I respond "That works, I'm ok too. A bit cold but I'm ok"
Her "yeah, its cold outside"
Me "oh ya it is lol. To cold to do anything but stay inside"
Her "yes or hot coffee"
Me "yes, hot coffee for sure today"
Her "and donuts, mmm I'm hungry"

We talk about what donuts we like or dislike. I tell her I like chocolate, double chocolate and glazed. She is a black girl which is a reason I threw that out lol. She says that sounds good. So now I tell her that this is making me hungry too and she responds "dang"

So now at this point again I'm trying to figure out if she is blowing smoke or if she feels this way. So I figured I would try to close this up. My response:

"Well what are you doing in a little while? Once I'm don't in a little while, I could stop and pickup your favorite donut and a coffee for you and I. That way neither of us go hungry"

Her response "ok"

I respond "should I message you on here or do you have a number I can text you at?"

An hour goes by and no respond so now I'm free and I send her: "so what would you like?"

20 mins later she says "what do you mean what I like"

I tell her "you know, your donut and coffee"
Her An hour later "oh yea"

So I respond back saying that since its now night time, let's plan for the morning since it will still be cold out tomorrow morning. But she hasn't responded. I saw her on once since I sent that message.

So my questions... Wtf is going on? Am I wasting my time or maybe she actually is this dumb? To continue to move forward with her, what do I say? I'm trying to meet up with her to feel her out and see if we will fuck. She is prob about a 7-8.

Any advice is appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:29 pm 
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Your wasting your time most likely unless she is in an especially logistically available which is unlikely. Your main issue is simply bad game. You sound like the typical online AFC thirsty guy. You are chasing too hard, facilitating her too much, and overall come off as low status thirsty guy.
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Me "That's cool. Maybe we can meetup sometime when your free"
indecisive wishy-washy low status response. Just tell her you want to meet up and give her two time options to do it.
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Her "Yea, I'm always free"
This sounds promising but unfortunately its not. She has such little regard for you she isn't even trying to maintain false mien of being busy.

I would forget about her and move on. Plenty of chicks will message you these worthless short replies in an effort to allay their boredom, very few of them have any actual interest when they talk like this. Focus on getting some good online game which you currently don't have


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:07 pm 
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yeah your game is terrible, no offence, ive had a lot worse convos online, you really need to look into how to hold conversations, get a good opener that works for you

seriously, talking about the weather is like when your bored at a bus stop and someone happens to be there, and you cant even think of any decent chit chat.

anyway there are some really good posts on here and on youtube about online game, take some time and watch/read them, get a word doc open and write down conversation topics and openers u find,


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:15 am 
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I think she might not be sure what you mean. Online dating can be scary for a woman. It almost sounds like you're going to pick the coffee and doughnuts up and head over to her house. That's a scary thing for a woman.
It might be better to get the number first. Then text back and forth for a couple of days and get her on the line. Very important to actually talk to her on the phone. If you talk to her on the phone a date is almost a certainty.
Meet up with her for an hour at a coffee shop or for a drink. If you've been in the game for awhile and know how to do it, bounce her.
It might be too late with this girl. I would pull back on the reigns and leave her alone for a couple of days and then try again, but if it doesn't work, well, that's just online game. There are thousands upon thousands of women online in your metro area.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:45 pm 
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ive found that black women are really bitchy. they have a thick bitch shield and it is tough to break in some cases unless you come off as a baller, athlete, or some sort of internet celebrity. black woman can be very vain despite not having much to offer except for above average looks in some cases. if a girl doesnt respond in a fair amount of time you tell her you wont accept it because her bad SPAM is a shit test.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:39 pm 
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Well the guys have pretty much summed it up so I won't repeat a lot of what has been said. You had superficial rapport built at best, and you sounded like most every other guy online. Each girl is different some you can get some good rapport going online getting into good subjects where she feels she understands parts of who you are, and will go straight to a a date. Other girls need you to go from talking online to text or facetime then to a date. Depends on the girl and how much comfort you've built with her.

I like that you were pushing to go for a date but it came to fast. When meeting people online a million and one articles say meet in a public place in the day time. Take that nugget away from them when suggesting a meet. Suggest to the girl I suggest we meet during the day and someplace public. You can always put in some banter about how she might secretly be on the next cover of some grocery store tabloid next for her killing spree and you'd don't want to be another name on the page. Be careful not to over do it and make it creepy but make light of those things that every girl and her mother is secretly afraid of happening.

Give it another try to really talk to her online. If she's not responsive back pretty quickly then she's only mildly interested and move on to another.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:54 am 
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Online dating can be scary for a woman.
I just wanted to back up what j50wells said here. I'll give a basic summary of what happened tonight.

From POF, I find a very hot girl, we get to talking back and forth, and I get her number. I tell her things like "I don't have time for people who are not interested in me," and "I'm a busy man." I tell her I am going to go eat, and I'd like her to join me. Over an hour later she says "Oh sorry I was busy earlier, just got your text". To which I say "Well I'm done eating. I was thinking about having a drink later, you're welcome to join me".I get her to the point where we are setting up a date. I set it up, I tell her we're going to go out and have that drink. She tells me she needs to shower, do her hair, makeup, etc.

Three hours goes by. I text her "It's been three hours. How's that hair and makeup coming along?" She calls me, she's nice and personable on the phone, immediately eager to talk like a normal human being (this is good because even though I'm still an AFC, my phone game has always been On Fucking Point; I can talk to women on the phone like no one's business, I'll keep them on the hook for 4 hours straight without even blinking). Now being that this is my first online encounter, I didn't think of the EXTRA COMFORT these girls need when meeting.

So, I say these words almost exactly, to my detriment: "Alright, well I'm about to leave since it's icy outside. What's your address I'll come to pick you up." She says "Well. . . . .. . . . .. . . I was thinking I was going to drive myself." To which I say "Oh. . . Well yeah, if that's what you want to do." CLICK

I think her phone fucked up. I text her asking what the deal is. 45 minutes later she says her phone died. Finally I get pissed off an lambast her, basically telling her I don't have time for little girls games, and sorry she missed out on a date with a real man (I said these things based on her profile in POF; things I know she wants). At the end of this text, after lambasting her, I said "Oh, and by the way, I liked your accent on the phone, I thought it was endearing" (which is true). I was thinking that at the very least, this seed would send her head spinning later. This is important to note, I think.

Five hours later, I'm driving home, I figured fuck it, I'll see if I can get her on the hook again, what do I have to lose? Nothing! The following is the text:

Me: You up?

Girl: Yeah

Me: So i was thinking of why you stood me up earlier. The best I could figure is I somehow made you uncomfortable, maybe cause I asked if I should pick you up I dont know. So I have an idea. How about you call me, let's talk on the phone a bit, and maybe in a few days when we're not busy we can meet somewhere.

Her: Ok can I finish my bath lol

Me: Yeah you can finish your bath. Ill be up for a little while longer but not all night. Gotta work tomorrow.

Me: I think its funny your taking a bath though. No one takes baths anymore, even though theyre relaxing as hell. Especially when its freezing out like right now

Her: Bubbles and scented candles, muy thinking time.

After this she calls me. I phone game her for 3 hours straight, which I do not see as work. I love to talk. I love to talk to women who are open to talking. She tells me everything about herself. At about minute 2 I say "So, I have to ask you about standing me up." She is embarrassed, I assure her "Oh man I didn't mean to put you on the spot! No judgement here, for real". She then tells me that she went chicken shit because she doesnt know me, and didnt want me to pick her up. I then went over the scenario of me being a big fat hairy creepy guy dragging her out to the field with a shovel, and made the whole thing a hilarious macabre joke.

At hour two, she's saying things like: I NEVER talk on the phone this long. I can't believe I've talked to you this long. This is amazing. You are so interesting.

I now have this girl on the hook to go on any date at any reasonable time, I am dead certain she will not flake again, at all, ever. It's not even an option for her at this time, I'll be on her mind for a while. I was too interesting for her.

She felt horrible she stood me up. I told her "I got all dolled up for this date." She thought that phrase was hilarious, then sent me the selfie she took of herself all dolled up before she flaked on me. I told her it was "adorable."

I want to do a write up for phone game. All I can say for phone game, which I do think I am exceptionally good at, is to just ramble and ramble and ramble. It's so easy to drag shit out of girls on the phone and then use that.

I also brought up things that OTHER guys do. I started with "I'll bet you get a lot of creepy fucks messaging you. Isn't that just SO disheartening and insulting?" We talk about this for a bit, then she mentions how all these guys want to do is fuck her. I say "Yeah I'll bet. I'll also bet they can't shut up about your pictures." She agrees and tells me all about the compliments she gets, and how it's annoying. I then say "You haven't heard me call you hot even once." She's silent for a minute, then her mind is blown the fuck away. She can't believe she didn't notice it before, she loves that I didn't compliment her. I then tell her "yeah I really like talking to you, you have awesome conversation skills." She then tells me how she's never been complimented on being a nice person to talk to. She thanks me. I then throw her a bone (a line I got off this forum, from a guy, actually). I say "You know what? Here, this is the best I can do for you. I think we're BOTH cute. How's that?" She says "YES! I love that, I'll take that. Good job!"

She's eating out of my hands guys. I am confident I will get the two things I want:

1: My first post-divorce F-Close
2: A girl I already have amazing communication with, so I can have a girl to have a serious intimate conversation with before and after the F-Close. This is something I need for F-Closes. I'm a sucker for pillow talk.

Anyway, that was long winded. The basic story here is that they need to be so comfortable, it's ridiculous.

Also, one last thing. You mentioned her "Cute pics btw." Just don't do this dude. I haven't been doing this long, but I've noticed something:

They don't want to hear about what you think of their pictures. They want to hear about what you think of their About Me, and them. Their pictures don't exist. Something to remember is this: How many girls have you talked to on there, where you see a lot of interest, but you haven't seen a "viewed me" notification from her? Sometimes they don't even bother looking at your profile, they just want to have a conversation. They won't mention your pictures either.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:20 pm 
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You're boring dude. She replied maybe because she was bored too and you might be good looking. But doesn't matter, no one is psychic so trying to guess other people's thoughts is pointless.


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