Guys,

I am a first time poster. I'm looking for any logistical or tactical suggestions to improve my normal routine. Appreciate your thoughts.

Key Points:
I am 33. Above average looks. Work as a consultant. I usually can get laid rather easily when I am at home, as I have built up a solid bench and I know my town.

Problem: I work in a different city three weeks out of the month. Usually there for only one week.

I have been trying to refine my approach to meeting up w/ girls that are dtf while I am on the road. I have had some success getting with local girls from Tinder or Skout and getting them back to my hotel room after a "date." This process can be labor intensive though.

My current routine is as follows:
- Show up to random city (say Philly).
- First day I hit tinder, skout, blendr hard to stir up any convo's I can get going
- try to filter said convo's for girls that are dtf
- usually get a "date" on Thursday (my last night there)
- about a 75% close rate b/c i screen so heavily


I recently started using POF and Blendr to troll for girls in areas w/ upcoming work travel. These apps allow you to look in certain zip codes. Does anyone know any other apps that allow you to do this?


Question:

1.) As stated above, Does anyone know any other apps that allow for changing your location? I'd like to try and screen for girls that are dtf before I actually get to a city.

2.) Has anyone had success through a different method than what I described above? I'd be interested to hear.

Other random notes:

- I have tried to use OKC's matching algorithm to find girls that are dtf. haven't had much success with it though.

Don't use the word the word "date" when you talk to them about meeting up.

Given, I don't game from city to city like you. However, I'd try something like, "come to my hotel and have drinks, I'm bored dammit!".

Date implies you're gonna take them out. Coming over to have drinks implies you want to hang out and have fun. That's what you really want, right??

I've been doing online game for a while. It's my main method of gaming now. I never take women out. My line is usually: "come over and watch zombie movies and drink beer with me, dammit!". I'll usually order carry out food, but that's it. For a first time, saying something like that is like saying, "come over and lets fuck".

With that said, I usually need to spend about a week building comfort and attraction. Though that time does vary. Sometimes as little as a few hours on a few occasions. After a while you'll know when you can get them to come over and "hang out". Look for ioi's i texting.... I usually do online like this:

1) Message on dating site based on their pictures.
2) Evaluate the replies I get. Then look at their profile.
3) Start mild banter and number close within about 5 messages.
4) Spend from (usually) about 3 days building comfort and sexual banter in texting.
5) When I can tell they're interested enough, "hey, come watch zombie movies and drink some beers with me this weekend.".

Maybe you can start gaming in advance??? When you know you'll be leaving for a new destination?? Also, I'd look into other options. Go to bars, etc... and let women know you're just visiting. Stay in Hotels that give them a reason to come check it out... "Yeah... there's this little Mexican restaurant at my hotel that has Chille Verde Burritos that are to die for. I think we both need Mexican food right now!".

Honestly, if you have game, use being out of town to your benefit. I've read women are more likely to have random sex with a guy from out of town or when on vacation out of town themselves. A lot of the time, all you need to get a woman to your place, is an excuse to herself not to feel like a slut. So... she's going back to your place for good Mexican food, coming over because you're bored and want company, etc...

I even read one guy in here who used, "come see my goldfish.". I used that to get a lady in my condo once... She laughed when I told her, "Yeah.. I don't have goldfish, I just wanted to kiss you.".

Good thought with the "date." I usually say "meet up" or "go out," but the point still stands. Better verbiage.

From experience, one challenge is fast tracking the comfort building phase. I think Neil Strauss talks about the 8 hours required with a girl before she will sleep with you. I know the actual time limit isn't important, but I know that I am working toward some comfort level with every girl. I can't think of any way to fast track that part. Hence why gaming in advance is one thought I had.

I have read some guys who had success with first messages on okc, but those haven't been good for me. Whether direct or indirect, girls have been less inclined to engage with a guy who is clearly from out of town.

If anyone has okc tips I'm missing, I'd love to hear them. But it seems to me that dtf trolling on okc is tough with only one message.

Great topic!

The best method if you’re not in town for long is Tinder. Once I had perfected my method, my success rate on first dates was 90% and I’ve often managed to skip the date, by having them come over or by going to their place!

Here’s an overview:

When arriving in a new city, activate Tinder right away and swipe a few times. If you work, do this in the morning so girls have time to match you while you’re busy. If you want to get a head start, get someone you trust to open you’re Tinder there before you arrive.

Next, you need to escalate sexually as fast as possible. There are ways to do this properly, here are some quick tips:
- Use a smiley so the girl does not know if you are kidding. For example, “wow, does that mean you’re inviting me over? ”
- Say things that are exaggerated. Again, so that you can test the waters without looking like a creep, for instance “you went to the gym.. so you want a massage right “
- Get her Facebook or Snapchat from Tinder, NOT the phone #. With these apps, you can send each other photos!! This can lead to some intense escalation!

When you hit resistance, do not keep pushing. This is simply not the girl that will send you naughty pics right away. You will have to take her out. Choose a bar close to your hotel, or the hotel bar ideally! Limit yourself to one drink. If you are charming, she will be enjoying herself and will not want the night to end. This is when you say that you have a bottle of wine you’ve been dying to start (buy it in advance). Once she is in your room, magic should ensue.

There is a lot more to this if you want to be 90% successful. You can get some more free info on my blog

Just know that you can be getting laid on all your trips with relatively little effort. I’ve been doing that around Europe and America for the past year!

Happy Tindering!

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