Hey guys... when I started online dating I hardly got any replies. Since then I revamped my entire profile -- put the best pictures on, wrote a witty about section etc... I have also figured out a number of opening routines that appear to work in atleast maintaining conversation AND I have got a few numbers as a result....

Here is my profile

Tagline - I am an asshole (classic Bravo PUA -- But I do get asked about it all the time)

About Me

Kind of bored of the club scene in regards to meeting women as it is not typically a good place to meet someone worthwhile. A friend told he had success on here so decided to try it out...

So.... I love walks in the park, hill climbing & the beach. Getting back into nature has a calming effect from the spiritually exhausting routine of day-to-day life. In my spare time I go to the gym. Health + fitness has become an integral part of my daily life. I am a vegetarian, just because animals are pretty awesome, its good for the environment + the health benefits are great! I like all types of music... Tend to generally gravitate towards Alternative Rock / Hip-Hop / Ska + Reggae / Electronic / Funk + Soul / Chillout / Jazz / Drum'n'Bass / Metal stuff. I study Philosophy + Anthropology @ Queens University + also do Videography as part-time job, filming the usual malarky such as music videos, wedding videos or pretty much anything I can make money out of (no pornos...yet) Overall, I think I have a strong + confident personality and I know exactly what I want out of life... what you see is what you get with me and I would rather be someones shot of whiskey, than everyones cup of tea!

I love a girl who is down-to-earth, easy going, laughs at my crap jokes, and is a good snog! I actually find intelligence and a good personality a major turn on. I like good conversation and to be stimulated intellectually, so if you are a girl who is a good fun to be around and has well informed opinions I will instantly like you. If you are bored of 'beta males' who plague your inbox pleading for a response to their painfully generic questions and want something that excites you, send me a message =)

First Date
First Date we would go ice-skating, just because it might be good fun and I can laugh at you falling on your ass. This will be followed by some ice cream + having a conversation so we can get to know eachother a bit better.

If there is a second date or third date you can take me out for dinner, get me incredibly drunk and then at the end of the night I might go "Grab your coat love....you've pulled" and then you can have your way with me!

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Here is a routine I usually do for the first few messages

"Hey came across your profile and thought you looked rather gorgeous in your photos + you can form a coherent sentence which is always a good sign...It does beg the question as to why you aren't currently in a monogamous relationship though....Are you trouble or something?"

They will usually write back trying to either say they are "good girls" or "what do you mean by trouble?" etc.. They will also ofcourse explain why they are currently single! You ofcourse have to customise your response based on what they say...but my second message is usually....

I say "You just look quite feisty....Your eyes certainly give away the fact you might be the spunky, sassy type. I am actually wondering what it would be like to get into your bad books if we ever dated... do you bite / would you ever throw a hairdryer at me?"

They usually respond...sometimes saying "Lol, you figured me right out!" or even commenting on the biting saying "Yes I do..."

From there I would probably start into normal conversation... Might ask them "What are you looking for on here anyway?" -- or sometimes I say "Are you a good kisser...Its a high priority of mine"

They will respond telling me what they are looking for and if they are a good kisser =)

Actually as a side note, if you REALLY want, I also sometimes say "Good... I love good kissing...especially the really hott and passionate ones where its full on + there is lip biting involved...are you like that?! -- I haven't really tried this out as often so not sure if its 100 percent going to work consistently, but it seemed to get a good response the last couple of times last time I tried and usually gets them very flirtatious! WHICH IS GOOD! This routine WORKS GREAT on MILFs / Cougars I have also found. They are far more receptive to it and usually escalate quite quickly to sex talk. If you are a younger guy you can sometimes turn this round into meeting up for casual sex -- this is just my experience from trying it on MILFs.

From here on in, if the opener is successful I will usually number close within a few more messages, but after this point there is no real routines I have come up with -- its just standard conversation. I have found it is best to ask for a number after a brief "getting to know what you are into + looking for" conversation. Don't keep talking to her on POF for like 3 days or whatever as you will both just lose interest. Get her number + her facebook that evening. Check out her facebook photos, Phone her within the week and then arrange to meet.

I have number closed plenty of times with this routine so try it out and tell me if it works for you

Phil

Thanks for sharing this! I've been trying online dating for about 2 weeks with only a few email replies and no numbers. I modeled my "about" section after yours, and used your opener, and already have a number close. Litterally in only a few hours. Thanks a ton!

Glad it worked for you man! I get numbers / facebooks every week from this routine so I agree -- it works =) I am going to post a template conversation here, using one I closed last night on an HB8. If you can, provide some other templates using the same material =)

Me: Sup girl...you are looking FINE in your photos. Like Dayum...kna mean? Kinds begs the question as to why you are still single though....you a bit on the mischievous side or something? Your eyes certainly give away the fact you might be the spunky + sassy type...

Her: Lol, well thats certainly an interesting first message instead of "hey" or "hi" to what I usually get on here. So good first impression. And yes, I would say I am quite mischievous

Me: Well, thank you.. I have to admit though I have a had a couple of drinks (Literally a couple...not drunk or anything) so I am in a pretty good smiley mood =) I am getting read to go out tonight to Filthys here so just having a few pre-drinks and browsing POF in the meantime before I meet my buddy =D Oh yes, you certainly do look quite mischievous, not sure if thats necessarily a good thing though =D Kind of contemplating what it would be like to get in your bad books if we ever dated....do you bite? So what exactly are you looking for on here? =)

Her: Ha that's good, everything's better with a couple of drinks, filthys is a great spot.
Haha it can be both good or bad and I'll only bite if you want me to Just a bit of Craic really, maybe meet for dates but nothing serious

Me: Hehe, I like getting bitten but its not as fun when you have my permission now is it? =D Yeah, Filthys is pretty good...! =) Seems like a good crowd =) Are you going out tonight yourself? =) Haha, yes I put "Wants to date but nothing serious" but what that really translates into is "meet up, have some drinks and see what the craic is".... "Looking for a relationship" seemed a bit far too desperate and not applicable to my situation =D But I would be open to it if the right girl came along =) So... are you a good kisser then? Its kind of high up in my priorities =D

Her: Ha well that's true lol. Nah was out last night. Yeah exactly that's always a good idea to sense how it goes, yeah I'd be the same if the right person came along eventually but not a great opening line to start a first impression on with some people lol Well I think I am but that would be for the guy to judge really lol

Me: Put it this way.... I think the best kissing is the hott, passionate type of kissing where its just full on pouncing eachother and where there is lip-biting involved....is that the kind of kisser you are =D Are you too classy Well, I am glad you are like-minded. I like your laid-back, open-minded, not-taking-it-too-seriously approach to online dating. There are plenty of women on here who just seem very entitled which is a bit of a turn-off. I could almost mistaken myself for being on NIs most eligible bacholorettes and not PlentyOfFish with some of the profiles I read... Basically it shows me that you are a mature woman that knows what she wants and is emotionally stable =) Trust me...major turn on

Her: Haha no I like that too when the context is right, obviously not out on the street lol but certainly in the bedroom lol. Yeah there's no point taking it seriously, puts me off when men expect you to chat just to them and get annoyed when you see people, its a dating website like what do they expect.... So I understand your annoyance at showy off women lol. Aw that's a lovely compliment thanks

Me: Yes, I agree... the bedroom would be ideal =) Awk, the nice cute kissing is good too...it has its moments...but....ya know how it is! =D I definitely have a soft-spot for red-heads, they are always the fiesty ones =D Do you reckon you live up to your stereotype =) Yeah, most people on here are just a bit mental really I've come to realize... So listen, I probably have to go here soon...and to be honest...I don't REALLY use this website that often....but I really enjoy talking to you and have a feeling we might get on well. We certainly have similar ideas about what we want.... So to be totally forward.... do you have a number I could reach you at? =) Don't worry, I have no intention of texting you every 5 seconds...You can probably tell that already =).... but, I might give you a call sometime (not a text!...text sucks) and we will go out for a drink...In filthys! And have a bit of banter If ya want that is...no pressure...won't be offended if you aren't interested

Her: Don't normally give out my number just because it's been a bit dodgy in the past but may do if we get to know each other a bit better?? Just cause as you say you get some mental ones so I don't really give my number out , not that your a mental one lol Sorry to be a dick lol. Haha yeah can be feisty when I want to be here lol

Me: OK, I understand, like I said was just asking cause I don't really come on here often so thought I might as well ask... well, what about facebook? =D We can get to know eachother on there and if you are not feeling it you can block me on facebook =D Plus, you can perve at my photos to make sure I am not just using the "good ones" from like 5 years ago =) So that way you are getting to know me better =D

Her: Haha yeah Facebook is grand lol add me - (name) haha of course lol good idea