I just moved to San Francisco, and I see a lot of attractive women going to work in the morning. I want to open them but can't really figure out the next steps.

I mean they are all in a rush to be places, achieve todays targets and all other good stuff, how should I approach and open them? Considering i'll only couple of times to close and other social dynamics i could face?


Any thoughts?


Much Appreciated!!

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You've put this on the wrong board, as there's an Approaching board and this is an online game one.

Approaching a hot girl on public transport is very hard, assuming you mean ones sitting down by themselves. By going and sitting next to them to say hi, you're kind of invading their personal space, in case they get creeped out and aren't interested in chatting to you. Plus even if they do chat, there's no privacy, as everyone can hear what you're saying, that could make her feel uncomfortable.

You're better off approaching her when she gets off the bus or train, even if it isn't where you yourself need to get off. That may be a problem though, if you're needing to get to work in the morning and work for a boss who requires you to be on time for work.

I'd approach while sitting in train. When they get off, they have to be somewhere, you might not be getting of with them, etc...

While they're sitting enjoying the ride, I've done just what the person above said not to do. "Hi!" *nice big friendly smile*

If she is interested she will respond with, "hi". *nice big friendly smile*

That would be an IOI. It is then okay for you to proceed.


Honestly, if a women is bitchy enough, or weird enough to get creeped out over a causualy person saying hello, then who wants to game her anyway?

My apologies for posting in the wrong board. That's why I was wondering why isn't anybody replying.

But now that I have, i'll continue here.

So I usually do approach them when they are running for couple of reasons, in the morning the trains are usually full and there is hardly any space to move around and secondly I still have this fear at times that i'll run out of things to say( honestly sometimes I do).

Other thing i have noticed is women have headphones on and most of them seem grim and clouded with their thoughts(maybe with the things they want to achieve that day), they could be bitchy because they have an important day ahead or something.

And If I do sit beside them and they are not interested or anything, should i just walk away? saying something "nice to meet you"

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Consider girls with earphone in as a challenge. They are challenging you to get their earphones out and talk to you.

Train game is fun and easy because they are a captive audience with absolutely nothing to do but sit. They may not want some guy to talk to them.. But they do want someone interesting to perk them up at the beginning of the day. If you run out of things to say, tell them "ok your turn to talk".

If you open with no expectations other than experience it may get easier for you. If you are worried about being socially awkward open indirectly, to gauge how open/friendly she is. If you are in a conversation and run out of things to say, just say what you're feeling ie:" I'm a little nervous, cause I've never done this before and I have no idea what to say next" something along those lines. The key to approach is not to be so outcome dependent.

True! Any topics or routines more engaging than other?

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"A man's attraction to women must be converted from attraction to women to attraction through women."

Really, you need to create your own routine. You can read, and get ideas from what other guys do. But you really need to develop your own game.

I will say this: keep in mind - if you're a commuter, you are gonna see 70% of the same people taking the train on a daily basis. Once you get the rep of being the guy that hits on every cute girl, your game is done.

Just be a friendly, chatty person that is fun to talk with. You don't need to number close every cute woman the first time you talk to her. I took light rail to work occasionally. Just open with causal conversation.....

Some of my favorites were:
- "Hi!" *smile*
- Starbucks? where is the Starbucks around here???? (if she is holding a coffee)
- Hey, can you connect to WiFi? I cannot. Are you sure its still working? My laptop will not connect. *transition*
- If I give you a 5 dollars, will you wake me after *whatever stop*. I don't want to wake up in 30 miles from work again.


If you are just taking random rides to sarge, you can be a little more forward:
- You are cute. Are you nice, too?
- *whatever line or routine you can find in the forums for day game approaches*

Yeah fair point. I do see a lot same faces in the morning and i do not open every girl for the same reason. And yes I do need to create my own routine.

I usually open "Hey! I just wanted to hey. I love your style. Those shoes/jacket or whatever looks weird but cool." And I see 90% of women engaging to that or at least have a positive reaction.

I can open fairly well and engage them. But after first few minutes I go in the normal talk routine and i see the energy isn't the same. And i become an AFC and then i get a lot of flakes, which i'm beginning to understand why.

What are some things I can work on to build more comfort and be that guy that's on everybody's mind?

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"A man's attraction to women must be converted from attraction to women to attraction through women."