So my okc profile gets lots of views, recently out of the 50 views and a lot of msg's only 2-4 girls got back to me? I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

www.okcupid.com/TheNatural203

Second issue:
I open with: I saw you and I knew if I didn't at least message you I would be kicking myself all night.. I'm X. Alright! I admit that was really cheesy.

they always say Haha it's ok cheesy is good sometimes, nice to meet you I'm X.

I then have NO idea what to say after this.

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I think my photo's are the issue. Am I right? If so what would you suggest?

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Said the profile doesn't exist...

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Try this mate http://www.okcupid.com/profile/TheNatur ... le_similar

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One thing you have going for you is that you're good looking - no homo.

Lose the pic with the selfy - only girls can get away with dressing up in nice clothes and taking pictures of themselves in the mirror. If you have any pictures of you having fun with other women, then post those. Don't make it too obvious though, you may need to crop out part of their pic to not come off as a try hard.

In terms of opening, find something in their profile to comment on. Just one brief line and make it witty and punctual, then finish with a DQ.

Ex: HB profile says she likes breakfast and Vonnegut.

You: Hey, I wasn't going to say anything until I saw the bit about Vonnegut. Slaughterhouse Five is pretty rad but I doubt we'd get along: I'm much more of a lunch person . . .

She: blah blah blah

You (maintain you frame - don't comply with hers - keep talking about whatever it was you were talking about): Just because we're fighting doesn't mean you need to get angry. There's always room for compromise, like brunch.

She: blah blah ha ha

You: switch gears from your frame and start asking questions about her and her profile. Be genuinely curious about her. Don't over-reply; keep your responses 2/3 the length of hers.

You're good looking but that won't save you from fucking up any interaction if you don't have game. I would recommend changing your zip code on OKC to another place to practice. Once your game is tight, then go back to your zip code. It'll also be really hard to lay if you can't carry that persona on a date.

Oh yeah: your profile is a bit too serious. Make fun of the OKC questions and yourself a bit more. You honestly don't have to take any of those questions seriously because we all know women love a man of mystery (no PU pun intended)

My $.02

If I have your look, I'd lay about 2-3 chicks a day But yea agreed with the previous poster that your profile is too serious and a bit all over the places.

- Focus on one theme and make sure it has a nice flow to it.
- You don't have to answer EVERY section. Leave some out for when meeting her in person and create some mystery.
- Your profile lacks of hook points. It's more like a bulletin board. An example of hook point would be like "I'd swear I'd never date another 10 after the hilarious incident last time" - Leave them want more, they'll start asking about the incident. You get the point.
- It's also full of contradicting facts. Like you try to be all cool and alpha but then your tagline is "Let's lie and say we met at a Dungeon and Dragon match"
- Another thing is if you can only speak a language poorly. DO NOT list it. Otherwise, you just appear to trying to hard to impress people.

I also recently just posted the profile I've been using. Take a look at it and try to incorporate some cocky and funny humor into your profile.

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GKS & Thes, thank you for your kind words - had a great effect on me. I'll definitely change my profile a bit and I'll update my post here and you guys can tell me what you think. I'll add the changes you mentioned. Stay tuned!!

*So here's something I've really been wondering. In real life, how do I open and ATTRACT her. If you could give me a few examples of what to so if appreciate it. This part of game is unclear to me. What's my objective and how do I get her interested, DHV - I'm unfamiliar with what goes on here. Explaining this step by step would be appreciated. I.E. a successful pattern, that I can understand and memorize

Note: I noticed that some PUA's talk a certain way to get emotion from her.

P.S. I opened with the common line I use on Okc and a girl responded to me with: "Nice to meet you pink. hows it going?" This is a common scenario that happens to me a lot and I never know my objective or where to take the convo. Please enlighten me.

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Your main issue isn't talking to women. It's your conversation skill in general. Most of your topic is fluff talks, it doesn't really engage or provoke strong emotion from people. You can google up Kezia Noble How to Create Deep Connection with Women for more insights.

As for successful pattern, there is none. Every girl is different, so is every PUAs or every guy. The only way to learn is through trials and errors and find out a pattern that works best for your personality. Hence, I encourage people to sit down and brain storm at least 3 openers to use. And for each opener, anticipate at least 3 answers you would get from her, then come up a follow up questions for each one of those. Try out your own openers no matter how silly or ridiculous they are, then you'll learn how to make a better one.

But when in doubts, talk about their passion. NOTE: THEIR. Not YOURS.

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So I immediately changed my profile, I think it's close to what you suggested. Let me know what you think (adding new pics soon)
I'll definitely create 3 openers and search for Kezia's book. I research her all the time. That was very insightful that there's no pattern. I understand. I'm very hard on myself, my game is getting better daily.
I'm going to be opening more sets!!

Although in order to cause attraction there are lots of tactics I don't understand. I feel that I have no game plan/tactics when gaming or how to disqualify, neg, DHV & etc.. I.e. imagine doing martial arts without knowledge of the techniques. That's what I feel like.

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