Alright gent's. Those of you on the forum who know me, probably know I am completely anti-online sarging. I think it's the biggest fucking waste of time... Ever. So, I conducted a little experiment.

And here's why... Yesterday, I set up a POF account to try and offer some PUA coaching to some guys on the site. I set the account up as a girl (obviously) put very little information in the profile (literally put "Message Me " in every single place where it asked for info) and put a picture of a pretty cute girl (nothing really special or super sexy... Just a cute girl with a stud in her nose and some pretty eyes) and within 1 hour of creating the account, I had 172 (ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO) NEW MESSAGES!!!

My point being... WTF DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY (WITH OUT EVEN SHOWING STRONG BODY LANGUAGE OR HAVING ANY TONALITY TO YOUR MESSAGE... ITS FUCKING TEXT SO DON'T EVEN TRY JUSTIFYING TO YOURSELF THAT YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING THAT FUCKING SPECTACULAR THAT WILL CATCH HER ATTENTION) THAT WILL MAKE YOU STAND OUT IN THOSE 172 MESSAGES!

Also, I literally couldn't even get through them all. It was fucking annoying to try and get passed the 3rd page of messages. So even if someone did respond, It was damn near impossible to try and figure out who it was.

SO, my message to all of you attempting "master online sarging"... Quit wasting your fucking time. You are only fooling yourself. Get out there and fucking get the girls that you want. Don't use a fucking computer to try and do it for you. Your excuses are your own. I don't care if you say you are "too busy" or whatever... The same amount of time you are WASTING on these bullshit dating sites, you could be out at a mall or department store during the day or a club or lounge at night... Literally anywhere. Leave the dating websites to the other assholes who think its going to work and use what you know about pick-up and APPLY IT. Running bullshit routines on a girl through a computer is NOT going to benefit you what so ever. If you don't even understand WHAT THE ROUTINES ARE DOING, BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER USED THEM IN PERSON... You are just wearing away at your keyboard.

172 messages in 60 minutes. Thats almost 3 messages a minute. One message every 20 seconds... In my years practicing pick-up... I've NEVER, EVER, EVER seen a girl get approached ANYWHERE in person once every 20 seconds. YOU ARE CREATING MORE COMPETITION FOR YOURSELF, NOT ELIMINATING IT.

QUIT BEING PUSSIES.

-Majik

Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work for others. Clearly you're clouded by your emotions. Such narrow mind won't get you far in life.

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Basically agree with you BUT you can stack the odds in your favour by creating a standout profile, and intelligently selecting which online dating sites you use.

It's never going to bear real life, BUT if you get it working for you, you can get very good results (i've managed to do so).

POF is OK, there are much better sites though.

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=47762692

I once used this profile, and an autoclicker which I ran for I think 20-40 minutes..I got 276 unsolicited emails in the space of a day.

Admitedly, they were not all off hotties though.

Anyway, this is a great profile but before you copy it, you need to be able to pull it off in real life!

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It could be because you live in a city with a very high population, you used an extremely attractive picture, or you're exaggerating, because I've done the same thing and the result was one message about every 45 minutes. I live in New Orleans. Not a very large city, but not a backwoods two horse town either. I posted the results here: something-i-found-interesting-vt157335.html

What am I going to do to stand out in all of those messages? Use creative openers and a decent profile. The result is a response rate of >30%, as posted here (with screenshots): my-new-favorite-online-opener-vt157968.html

As I've always said, online is just a supplement to real-worl game, not a replacement. It's fast and easy to get numbers and possible Day 2's with not much invested time or effort, though you don't know the quality until you actually meet. I could definitely see online being actually important in rural parts of the country with very spread out populations.

Clouded by my emotions? Lol you fucking moron. You're mind must be clouded by all the numbers or some smoke of some good shit. Numbers don't lie my friend.

Basing a 24 hour period through the one hour of time the profile was active.. 172 messages in 1 hour (times) 24 hours= 4128 messages in ONE DAY..... NO GIRL GETS HIT ON THAT MANY TIMES PER DAY IN REAL LIFE! NOT EVEN FUCKING MEGAN FOX.... AND THE GIRLS THAT ARE ONLINE... ARE NOT MEGAN FOX.... THEY HAVE A REASON TO BE ONLINE... They are ugly, they have a personality of a wet fucking towel, or they are looking for some type of guy that doesn't exist (they want their "NoteBook" love story)

So before you come at me and say I have a narrow mind... Why don't you open your eyes and look at what reality is. The fact that YOU think you are going to be able to create some profile or send some incredible image of yourself through a message on a website is pretty fucking closed minded if you ask me. The internet has given people who are scared of interacting face to face with other people a COP OUT to not do so and still have some hope for happiness. If you actually consider yourself a pick-up artist... You would not need online dating because you would realize the purpose behind it. It's not for guys who know what they are doing... Its for guys who are fucking hopeless but will never be able to look at it from the other side. ITS A WASTE OF TIME. CASE CLOSED. If all your life is about is "Getting Pussy" you need to grow the fuck up my friend. PUA can do many other things as far as giving you the ability to meet alot of awesome people besides pull NASTY twat off of websites. Come at me with some fact based knowledge and a little bit of respect next time, cousin.

You're clearly biased and won't accept others' point of views. Any further argument would be pointless. Case closed.

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This guy's hijacked another one of my threads. His only purpose is to push his own products. Bro, I understand you make a living off of this, but don't terrorize the online game section with this non-sense, seriously. You clearly don't know the first thing about online game. Your messages are so provoking that it's almost trollish. I wouldn't take this guy very seriously.

I bet you are the type of guy who loves to hear his own voice. You're obnoxious dude.

This is exactly what I mean. Troll

Take all your fuckin goofy ass internet terms like troll or keyboard jockey or dick head or what ever the fuck you want to throw at me and shove them up that tight, nasty ass of yours. I put this on here for a moment of clarity to people who KEEP WASTING THEIR TIME... dipshit. Go fuck yourself in the mouth. In that order. Over and out. Roger that.

go buy a wire brush and scrub ur back

in that order

hey,
here a girls perspective.
I've been on a couple dating sites.
Usually, if you're new to a site (or on some sites where you haven't been in a while and you're online, depending on the algorithm) yes, as a girl you'll get tons of messages. But after a while it dies off.
If a girl is online, she's obviously looking or waiting for something.
Most guys online are boring and/ or desperate and / or stupid.
It's not that hard to stick out with a good profile (displaying some actual interests and that you have an actual life besides being single and looking).
Don't be needy. Be cool. Of course there is more competition, but there are also more girls, who actually want to be approached.
Online dating has many disatvantages, the advantage though is: if your not looking for someone random who's shaggable and the site has a somewhat good search function, you can find someone with specific interests etc.

I use online dating now mostly for meeting girls, since I've got already too many guys asking me out on & offline but when someday I'm looking for something serious I'll probably go looking for vegetarian, polyamourous people online (found this type of people on several sites - offline? real tough!)

And here's why it doesn't:
http://www.switched.com/2007/11/12/one- ... irst-date/

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"That's right, online dating is like grazing a lush field of sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs)."


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Did you read that part of your little article? If you are doing this to simply smash any piece of pussy that the legs will open for you.... I'll save you some time and suggest you call a hooker.

QUALITY is much more important than QUANTITY. If you start talking to a girl online.... Say you meet her at a bar for example.... How many other women are at that bar? Why won't you talk to THOSE women instead? Who are actually social and aren't afraid to get out? It's because you are too big of a pussy to do such. Online dating simply turns guys into weak fucks who have no social skills because they refuse to deal with the rejection that face to face interactions may bring. Rejection is a part of LIFE guys. Not just a part of pick-up. If you are going to try and find ways to short cut it simply so you can "get your dick wet"... you are really not ever going to understand what it means to live. Quit being so fucking scared of someone not liking you...

Here's another article for you:
http://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control.aspx

I have said several times that I don't think anything online is a replacement for something in the real world. Your hostility leads me to believe that you are trying to downgrade your competitor.