A week or so ago I opened a girl on OKC she is in a similar situation that I'm in. She just moved to LA and she's looking to meet new people. I opened her and she was nice but really short responses didn't really get to into it, but gave me her number and we started texting. I made the mistake of texting to long of text and being a little too enthusiastic. She said she didn't really feel interested, so in response I shot a very sarcastic text back which seem to change her mind. We continued to text and about 5 text later she said she wasn't interested again, because she "didn't think we would get along". Keep in mind she was very short and I didn't get alotta info outta her the entire time. OK THIS IS WHERE SHE GETS SUPER WEIRD/BITCH. 5 days later i texted her back and it went like this

ME 1:09: What are my odds of you changing your mind AGAIN?? good/bad
Her 1:09: Why do you want to go out with me

Me 1:13 Who said I wanted to out w you?! i was just looking for a New friend. I like how unique your profile is, very funny (thats the truth too)
Her 1:13 i meant hangout by go out.
Me: 1:16 Your sucha mystery and I wanna actually see you wear something crazy in public like you talked about. I think your just talk.
Her 1:59 Call me I'll decide if I like you
Me 2:00 Haha Ok...I'll do it later I have an archery thing.
Her 2:00 sure idc


About 3 hours later I called her and we talked for 30 mins. Which she said was a pleasant conversation and THEN SHE SAID SHE WOULD REVIEW OUR TEXT CONVO FROM THE 1ST DAY WE TALKED. factor in our phone condo and profile and see if she wanted to hangout.


went like this.

me 6:12 How do I know if i Passed (looking back i feel this text was a mistake)
her 6:18 Calm down I'm reading our text now.
me 6:48 i'll keep my fingers Crossed
her 6;51 you don't the difference between hesitate and hesitant
Me6:52 I blame that on auto correct and fat thumbs
Her 6:52 I don't
Me 6:55 I never said I was a spelling be Champion
Her 6:55 Excuses
me 7:23 so thats strike 2?
her 7:28?
Me 7:29 my gammer mistake...strike 2?
Her 7:30 Grammar
Me7:31 HA I can't get anything right w you.
Her 7:31 It doesn't bother me as much as you think
me 7:33 I think you just enjoy me giving you shit.lol


That was the way it ended She prollly won't text first ever....so On Thursday I feel I'm going to send her a text that says "I have a paper that needs to be proof read...that seems right up your alley"

Dude this is horrible. She was leading the conversation the entire time, and you were seeking her approval and jumping through hoops all the time. "You passed?" You passed what? Why would you need to pass anything for her to go out with you? This is awful. Just a few examples:

"What are my odds of you changing your mind AGAIN?? good/bad "

What is this? Why on earth would you text something so needy?

"Call me I'll decide if I like you "

Dafuq? This is a MAJOR shit test. And your reply is so weak. But in the end it didn't matter at all because at this point she was already just enjoying how well she could manipulate and lead you. At this point she already had 0 intention of going out with you.

Yeah, I'm harsh, because I want you to understand your mistakes and learn from them. Next time keep in mind that it's not a privilage for you to go out with a woman. In fact it's a privilage for them, to go out with you.

And I don't think I want to comment anything about the "I'll review our conversation" thing. It'd be just way too brutal.

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thanks for the evaluation. I know i screwed it up and sounded needy. I got twisted up the very first convo with her. She wasnt responsiive and I was trying to hard. What could I have done to keep controll of the convo and respond to her shit test. I do better with this stuff in person because i can read body language well, but I didnt know how to react through text hard to read IOI's and suchthrough text. Thanks though any advice is helpful even if its harsh.

Well fuck me if I'm wrong. But if a girl is uninterested, meaning she doesn't take her time to respond to me and writes short stupid responses like "k" or ":)" then I won't waste my time on her. That's just it. You can't win it all.

Another thing. Really... watch out for your grammar. Normal, intelligent people don't like it when someone can't write properly. The girls will think you're stupid.

Now how to lead the conversation... Well it's quite difficult for me to tell from just these text messages what you could have done, because it consisted of nothing interesting at all. It was just you trying hard, and her laughing her ass off. I don't know your age, women in their late 20s, early 30s like it if a guy is really sexual. Skills360 wrote a quite decent guide on texting.

It probably won't work on teenage/early college girls though, because they're not yet sexually that confident(even if they're trying to look that way). For those girls keep it all fun. Text her random stuff. Don't fluff. Just fun, and keep it short. And after a few texts you should be able to ask her out. You can be flirty and teasing too, it would help a lot, but the most important is FUN. Each time she recieves a text from you, she should be smiling. And don't ask questions in the text. Especially... don't finish it with a question. Try relying on statements instead. For example... instead of "Can we hang out?" Text:" We should totally hang out. I'm free on X day, and may be free on Y day, but I'm just too busy on the others" You don't need to necessarily be really busy, it's just a demonstration, that you have better things to do than her. And this would work best, if you already know something about her schedule, and use those days as "free" that you know she's most possibly free too. If you have further questions, I'll gladly answer them, though I'm no expert in text gaming. Generally I try to avoid it, and only use it after I at least k-closed. But hey, that's just me you may have insane texting talents, you just might not know it yet.

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I don't know why it posted twice.

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Okay we all know you screwed up big time but no one has pointed out where did you go wrong. So I will in order for you to learn from your mistakes and make some corrections to your game.

Your first mistake is being too needy and forceful. Understand that attraction is not a choice, learn to judge the girl's level of interest. That way you won''t have to waste your time unnecessary. It's totally okay to re-initiate after a decent amount of freeze-out time, but it's important to make it light and fun.
Here is a good way to fix things:
- Keep your text short with correct grammar and spelling. Type it then put the phone down, wait 10 min and pick the phone up. Look it your reply again, make correction and send. It's hard since we all tend to be too eager to text back or afraid to let the flow of the conversation falls off. But you'll get used to it.
- Forget about f-closing, kiss close or landing a date. Your first priority is working your inner game, do approaching practices to boost your confidence first. Think twice before you say or text anything to avoid appear too needy and insecure.

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thanks for explaining what i coulda done better. I feel i'm too in my head when I'm talking to her because I've never met her.I'm much better in person and have been very successful in the real world. I'm constanting debating whether to turn the condo a little dirty (she's 22) or I'm struggling to come up with something clever or funny to say....then I just say something stupid needy. She was my first person I've talked to online so I have a hard time reading her mood or level of interest. How do i raise her or any girls level of interest from text.. I know to keep it short and sweet. I'm more looking for topics or transition material to get my ball rolling.

A great advice someone once told me. "Shut up and listen. See the world for what it is. Then you'll realize it doesn't revolve around you"

Stop worry about what should you say. When a girl says something, instead of torturing your head trying to come up with something clever or new topic to say, listen to her and ask why. That way you can keep the conversation flows and make some deep connection with her.

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Ok so I took everyones advice, stopped texting this girl and two days later she text me hey outta the Blue....
Her 7:08 Hey
Me 7:10 Whats up
Her 7:11 Eating Dinner. You?
Me 7:13 Gummy bears (she eats them all day long)? Just got done at the gym. showering.
Her 7:14 I wish. Carnitas
Me 7:27 You cook? interesting...
Her 7:27

At this point I shoulda just froze her out looking back...but my mouth said something...this did happen before you replied the first time (yesterday)



Me 7:45 can't stop thinking about me I see.
Her 7:56 uh
Me 8:01 You text me first.lol (my intention was to basically in so many words say "why are you texting me?")
Her 8:01 So?

I attempted to change the subject by referring back to how she always corrects peoples grammar.

Me 8:41PM I have a script I've been working on, I need you to proof read it for me since your an english teacher and all.

HER 1:55 AM Ha

Me 2 AM: I sent her a picture of a cartoon character making a "WTF?" face...
Her 2:08 Why are you up
Me 2:11 Why are you up?
Her 2;21 I just woke up
Me 2:29 I write
Her 2:30 What do you write
Me 2:31 Comedy...lately Ive been writing a lot.
Her 2:33 Oh yea? like what
Me 2:36 whatever amuses me, mostly ppl i interact with.
Her 2:37 ha ok
Me 2:40 So when Are we gonna hangout?


No respone. WTF is she doing???? why text me after all this text and jump through hoops BS...then not reply when she knows its the elephant in the room???? HELP HOW TO I HANDLE THIS SITUATION?? Freeze her out?? FOR HOW LONG? Just shoot her a text once in awhile???

Dude stop it... Think twice before texting. Put yourself in her shoes. Before every text, think about how you feel if some clingy girl text you such replies. If you have noticed, her responses were extremely short and autopilot, your conversation was going nowhere.

Follow this rule "Phone to sex, text to sext". Don't banter nonsense, you get in contact with her for one sole purpose. Meeting her and fucking her. Your conversation should be heading towards that direction.

1. She texted you first. Cool story. You know she's a bit interested. Why did you feel the need to call it out instead of rewarding her good behavior? That's something an insecure man would do in order to make himself feel better.

2. When it comes to subject like your passion, be enthusiastic! You love writing comedies, yet you sounded extremely boring when talking about it. Make her curious, throw her a hook, keep it a mystery. For EX: "Writing this hilarious comedy sketch. I got some amazing ideas from you "

3. LEAD the conversation! Ask interesting question which makes her think hard. For EX: What is the hardest thing you had to do in your life?. Also qualify and tease her.

4. DO NOT ask when you invite a girl out. Rather tell her your plan and that she can come meet you.

What you should do right now? Give it a rest. If she's still interested, she would initiate it. If that happens, cut the chase and tell her to come out with you already. All the bantering is rather pointless. If she doesn't, you can always text her again after a month or so, making up some interesting excuse. For EX: "You're still alive? My bad for the late reply. I've been busy training ninja monkeys". See what I did there? I pretend that she texted me something but I didn't reply. Who cares if she did or not? Even if she calls me out on that, I'd just ignore and carry out with the conversation. But what it does is putting a frame that I'm in control.

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If you still want anything with this girl, listen to GKS. If you don't want... well still listen to him because these advices he gives are good. The only thing I didn't like is asking about the hardest thing she had to do. I don't like talking about stuff like this via text, but probably it's just me.

I just feel like it could backfire for a few reasons.

1) It could lead to negative topics I generally like to avoid.

2) It can easily turn into a fluff-talk.

3) I hardly ever ask questions when texting because too much questions will give away too much power, or turn into an interview.

However, this could work in more experienced hands. With correct frame control, you should be able to limit your questions, and avoid fluffing.

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