Like 2 years ago when I first joined this site I closed a quick 10-15 girls in 3months. Now it's literally impossible to get a reply back?? Nothing on my profile has change other than a pic or two. Same about me section. Anyone else experiencing problems??

post your profile up in the other thread and have other guys look at it.

I personally change my profile / images every month or so to keep it fresh and try new things, and always had okish results.

personally I find "joking" in the first message sometimes comes across wrong (hard to convey emotion with text, and I;ma sarcastic **** which works great in person but not so much online) so I've been using more direct approaches recently with compliments to their personality and they seem to be working ok.

Here is a link to A POF Optimisation post that might help:

http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... ing-guide/

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Steve

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I've done the online dating thing on and off over the past few years...

I'll never claim to have full-proof, 100%, always get a reply methods because no matter what anyone will tell you, they don't exist.

I've read surveys and crap that say a popular guy on those sites probably gets replies 20-30% of the time. So with those figures in mind, yeah, I do pretty well on there.

When you went on first, you had lots of success... now you've been on there for 2 years? And it's dried up right?
The answer is simple.... do you log on every day and just see the same girls over and over and over... until one day, some new hot blonde shows up and you just HAVE to message her??
That's basically what's going on with her in reverse. If I do it, I tend to cycle on and off. If you do it for a few weeks then leave it for another month, then try again for a few weeks, there will be different girls on there. The previous ones probably met someone by now and new girls have joined up.

If you are on there 24/7, every day, she's probably seen you're not getting success and she's more interested in hearing from the "new guy" than getting another attempt from you.


So... be that NEW GUY! Just do it in cycles so you're always the new guy, and in the cycles you're not online dating, get out and meet girls elsewhere.


Also, in terms of messages. EVERY girl is different. Some like compliments, some find it cheesy. Some girls will give a number in 3 messages (go for it in 3), some won't. Some only want attention/validation, some want relationships. Some like comments on their profile, some find it stalkerish.

I have to say this though... the absolute WORST first messages I've tested... yeah, you guessed it... Ones I read in PUA columns.
For your first message, don't be cocky funny, don't be a dick (I mean, alpha), don't do the "baby baby, ur hot lolz" thing.

What WORKS the most is... be normal. Say hi, keep it short, give an indirect compliment and how you had to say hi to her, say at most 2 sentences about yourself and then seed something for her to respond with. I find this works best, just being normal.

The thing is, online there is a fine line between PUA and AFC douchebag. AFC's will do/say a lot of things online they won't say in real life, so over complimenting or trying to be too unique/funny just comes off lame.

Be normal, if she responds, then start being more funny and game her a little.

I'm no expert but taking the advice above has done well for me.

I've been noticing the same thing. I just joined but it was hyped up to be this Promiseland of easy pussy as long as you didn't make a total ass of your self. The reality is, no such luck. I'm having trouble even getting a reply as well.

I switched uo the profile of w the help of that link. Gettin some bites now. I deleted my account my two years an jus recently signed back up w my old profile. Jus pissed me off bc i had great success first time around and tried it again after 2 years and nothing

I personally call it Plenty Of Fatties and I get messages from fat girls all the time but I don't really have any DHV pictures. The pictures I do have are pretty basic but I don't have much luck with that site.

I've gotten a few messages going every week but I can never transition them into a meet up or a #close.

It's funny that if you log on once a week, you'll see those same girls online, still single

The expectations of some of the girls online are utterly ridiculous. They're waiting for some online Prince Channing Tatum to come sweep them off their feet. I personally would much rather day game but I'm from a town of 10,000 people surrounded by corn for 20 miles out in every direction. So, I pretty much just wait and see if anyone new signs up or see if there's anyone new at the local bar.

Out of towners are what's key for me, *sigh* stupid Ohio

Site sux. Still nothing, focusing on real life game. In all honesty it was great 2 years ago b4 it became fluttered,w creeps and guys who never seen the inside of vaginal. Banged 10+ girls in a short amount of time back then.... Now still nothing. Few bites but nothing progressing.