alright guys. not too sure what to do just want some input. i know its a long post but please bear with me. back in november this girl at my school added me on myspace. it took me a lil while but i soon figured out who she was. shes definitley attractive and i knew who she was but i never talked to her before. and at the time, things were kinda in limbo with this other girl i kinda liked. so i really didnt use much game on her. i didnt want to lead her on or anything. but i commented her. these comments/ messages went back n forth like this:

me - "hey thanks for the add. whatsup? youre xxxx's sister right??"

hb8 - "hey! yup lol i am!"

hb8 - "how did you know that.. lol "
me - "lucky guess. u looked familiar."

hb8 - "lol nice. well good guess!=) i see you a lot during the day ha."me - "yea o do u happent to have your locker by mine?"

hb8 - "no idk where your locker is, i just see you randomly through out the day i guess lol"

me - "o ok j/w... well then say hi next time u see me alright??"

hb8 - "lol k.. do you even see me during the day?"
(truth is i never really seen her at all that year. i never noticed her really, i didnt know what to say.)

me - "yeah i remember seeing you before, not all that often tho"

hb8 - "ic"

(she starts messagin me now)_______

hb8 - "ha.. people are prly gonna think were kinda werid with the comments.. it makes me sound like a stalker cuz i see you a lot but you dont really see me!"

me - "lol well if u want i could get rid of them lol. its not tooo stalkerish. well now that youve mentioned it ill probably see u a lot more."

hb8 - "nahh its fine i dont care lol.. yahh i see you every day before 8th hour.. then just random times during the day.. do you have 4th hour commons?"

me - "alright. o, no i have 2nd hour commons. "

hb8 - "that sucks! lol a first hour class then 2nd hour commons... hmm i thought i always saw you 4th hour walkin outside.. maybe its 5th hour or something"

me - "yeah it does suck. next semester i have 3,4,5 off so that will be nice. yeah i have 5th hour lunch so maybe."

hb8 - "danngg your lucky! i have 8th hour commons next semester thats it.. but i like it! ha.. yah then thats prly when i see you cuz i have 4 and 5th hour off and im usually out front waiting to pick ppl up"

me - "8th hour isnt soo bad. o ic, what do u drive???"

hb8 - "hah well im still to poor to afford my own car.. but i drive a green accord but im usually in the white tahoe with xxxx"

me - "o ok, yeah i think i saw you guys today. well i think i saw that white tahoe."

hb8 - "yahh she drove it today.. but i wanst with her lol i drovee but tomorrow i'm going to lunch with her nad we'll prly be outside waiting for brittany but we might not be.. idk yet! enough about that haha.."

(i didnt reply to the last message, i couldnt game her all that much cuz i was interested in this other girl. but the next da she sends me a message right away after school)

hb8 - "alright soo idk if you hear brit and amanda after lunch but sam asked who you were cuz she saw my messages and she wanted me to show her to you today and i did but then jara wnated to go to the bathroom and amanda asked who you were n i walked away cuz i didnt hear her n they started yelling dumb shit lol so yahh.. ignore what they said if you heard it! cuz it was just them being retarted"

(i actually did hear them yelling but i didnt know what it was about and didnt hear it.)

me - "alright lol, actually i didnt hear anything so dont worry bout it haha. i didnt even see them so idk."

hb8 - "haha okayy good!"

i began to notive her alot after that. i made eye contact a several times. most times she would see me right away. but i never got the chance to even say hi. she would always be talking with her friends or too far away. but within those next 2 weeks i convinced myself to give this girl a shot. and suddenly this other girl from earlier began playing me again. i got my hopes up thought she liked me but i was wrong. i totally gave up on her a few weeks back. i wanted to try for this other girl again but i really dont get the chance to talk to her in person ever. so on myspace last week i commented her just being casual like "hey whatsup". we had a short conversation and i was playing some cocky humor into it. and i cut it off short saying i was leaving to the hockey game. she never messaged me after that. maybe i didnt get her attention good enough?

what should i do now. this week i let her catch me looking at her a couple times and i let out s nice smile. but i dont know what to talk about now. i cant tell if she still likes me cuz she never tried talking to me after that last message. she would just look at me once in a while. i think maybe cuz she found out i lied that other girl. maybe from reading my comments or something saying how we were going to lunch together.

IOI's
-when she added me i was her only "new friend" so she wasnt mass adding friends, she found me
-mentions seeing me a lot
-dragged on the convo a little.
-that long run on sentence message with no punctuation. about
her friends yelling stuff at me about her??
-used to look at me a lot but didnt flirt

and i just noticed i closed it pretty bad. almost rude. i was actually in a hurry so i just typed "ooo ic, that does suck. well im going to the hockey game. ttyl"

how can i fix this???

i know someone is probably going to tell me i got "one-itis" but you guys are the best for this advice, and there arent many girls i can go for in my school anymore without coming off as a player. this board has helped a lot in the past. what should i do now?

All fluff talk no action
the girl seemed to be into you in the beginning you could have arranged to hang out with the girl after school sometime just to have her on your team but you didn't do anything in person. If I were her I'd assume you weren't interested. You wasted a lot of time thinking about talking to her all because you liked some other girl who ended up not liking you there's nothing wrong with having multiple girls to talk to.

next time focus on doing things right the first time no mistakes

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yeah i really get what youre saying. i made a mistake there not keeping in contact with her. but UPDATE. she just started messaging me again, fluff, havent replied yet. so i guess im not in too bad a spot now at all.

You can sneak some negs in there to make her feel even more comfortable.

definitley will neg now that shes my main target. i made a good EC friday last week and whattaya know? she messaged me sunday on myspace, fluff, just asking what ive been up to. she was online and so was i got off and came on later and replied, DHV just telling what ive been up to. But now, she hasnt come online since then. its been 2 1/2 days now and she hasnt logged on. Shes beating me at my own game!!! i hate that i have to wait now cuz i actually do like her, shes not just one on the list. i know she is a busy gal, she works nearly everyday after school but still...idk

What do you all suggest i do now? yesterday i saw her and made EC, kept my confident, alpha body image just kept talking and laughing with my friends. saw her today too for a sec and i clearly saw she was looking at me until i passed. she stopped talking to her friend and turned her head. she doesnt flirt at all in person tho.

so should i wait it out? i think its pretty obvious shes interested again. should i wait for one more good EC and approach her later saying ,"when are u going to have the guts to come talk to me instead of just looking at me?" or something along those lines??? should i just give her the casual "hey! whatsup? i gotta go cya" in person?? any better approach?

any help appreciated. thanks guys

Rain, you seem to have a pretty decent sense of what to do. But i'm gonna tell you something, and you're going to think i'm crazy, but i'll tell it to you anyway: work on another target at the same time.

This will help you with your main target. Not only does it prevent you from the I-better-not-lose-this-girl-she's-too-important mindset (and thus making you more easygoing and attractive to that girl overall), but it also helps you with your game because you're practicing on another girl. Hey, you might even like the other girl better.

Deangelo stresses the importance of having many potential targets... and it gives you a powerful and attractive image as an alpha male. Having many options is in fact one of the main advantages of any of the PUA methods on here, so make sure you capitalize on that. I use this mindset to keep my options open so I don't become clingy on my girlfriend... and she loves me for it .

As long as you are doing this you will automatically be pretty confident when talking to just about anyone. What you say only matters a little bit. I would advise saying the "when are you going to have the guts to come talk to me?", but say it confidently and playfully while giving the impression that you are indifferent to her response. Then engage in casual conversation to build comfort. When you are alone with her or if enough comfort is established you can move into seduction.

thanks, thats a good idea. im kinda there already. im talking to another girl who im pretty sure likes me but im not giving in to her too much cuz i dont want to hurt her if things work out with this other girl. but i never get to see this first girl at school for more than a few seconds, passing in the halls usually. shes always with her friends. so i cant really do any routine on her or anything. she still hasnt logged on myspace. what do u think i should do about her? just wait or show interest in some way? is it okay for me to just say the "hey! whatsup? gotta go cya" in person?

If you only see her for a few seconds during the day then nonverbal communication might be best.

However I don't really understand the context of the situation (if she's in a hurry to get to the next class, how shy she is, etc.). If I were you, I would make a bold introduction sooner or later before you lose value. If you take months to finally talk to her in person, you'll come off as an AFC... and you don't want that. Plus, your boldness will probably make her stop and talk to you, and she will connect your real life personality to your online one and see that you aren't one of those guys that hides behind a keyboard .

It's good you're considerate of other girls' feelings. But you don't have to seduce them, you can just become very close friends. It's very easy to do this, just don't go too far with the kino.

she isnt in a hurry or anything. she doesnt seem very shy. like shes a big into parties n such but she doesnt flirt with me at all in person. but i guess i coud be a bit intimidating, and im a year older then her. but we only have 4 minutes from the time were let out to get to our next class. i pass her every day walking the opposite direction and shes always with a few friends, so am i. and if i timed it right i could end up right next to her coming out of a different class and heading out. but this hallway is so packed with people im not sure if it would be a good idea to hit her up there. and she has friends with her there too. any good wingman ideas? just to talk to her? i got a buddy walking with me everyday.

You could try a situational opener based on your surroundings.
Like, "I really wish there were more people in this hallway" in a sarcastic tone. Or something like that.

ooo thats prime!! thanks. its so simple of an idea yet i couldnt think of it. situational opener should work fine. ill try to do that with my wingman or something, i should be able to get something out of her.

ok well i havent gotten to talk to her in person yet but i got a s/n close online and she started messaging me on msn. im not sure how/ when i should arrange for hanging out. shes got her number posted and so do i so i dont really need to ask her for it, i could just ask if i can call sometime.

but in our conversation, after a pause, she said
"i like how we just started randomly talking to each other lol"
me - "yeah me to haha"
"its def a first for me"
then i changed subject a little
(is she trying to play it off as just a random thing so i dont think she likes me?) she's gotta be interested right? she started messaging me and shes not very outgoing. like she doesnt just talk to whoever and add tons of friends on myspace. and along with that story from my initial post this thread???

i need some advice what to do next. im not gonna number close just yet maybe on the weekend? what do u all think? thanks