Dingus,

Good Question. I have met people as much as 4 hours away online and then met them in person but it was a One Time Thing if you will... *clears throat* Anyways, for a dating relationship of some kind typically within about an hour. Any more than an hours drive it becomes a hastle to see each other regularly for both parties.

Jon

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Jef_journey,

You have been cocky and playful in your opening messages to her. They did what they are inteded to do which is to get her attention and get her talking to you. She just asked you how your weekend was? She is complying to what we wanted right? We wanted to talk to her.

So, there is no need to neg or get overly playful with her question. That would be like spanking a dog for doing what it was told. We want to reward good behaviour. I doubt you'll need any negs with someone like her. You just need to start talking to her normally. Answer her question and then ask one of your own to further the conversation. If you want you could be a little playful.

I'll say stuff like, "Well after I saved the queen from the assasination attempt. I jumped out of a nice airplane and ski'd down the Swiss Alps.....no really I went to.......(insert whatever you did)." However I do that because its in my personality not because of the game,

Jon

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I was in Manchester, about three months ago. And I was with friends at some sushi restaurant. I remember my friends (men and women.) They where all talking about this beautiful women at the bar, I didn’t believe that she could be as hot as they said LOL!
Well she walked past and WOW… she was incredibly beautiful.
I thought am going to talk to her, and being the type of person who makes things happen. I got into a great conversation with her.
But despite all that beauty, she just wasn’t **** for me. It didn’t click for me. Needless to say I never called the number she gave me. So you can see just how important **** is to me.

*** stand for whatever quality i feel best represents the girl!
If its crap just say man... break it down and build it up LOL!

Reactionz,

I know what you mean. I have met lots of gorgeous women that I don't feel an ounce of attraction for. It's hard to explain the spark or chemistry or **** is just not there for you. Everyone agrees the girl is hot and stuff but it's just not there. Even now when I'm out with my circle of friends and I see hot women in the club, I'll get a poke here and there to go approach. Sometimes I'll go being the way I am but after 2-3 min I already know **** isn't there.

Jon

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question for you, a girl i know has said i can ask her any question in the world and she has to answer truthfully.

background info: i'm very close to F-closing

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Slick_uk,

So I am guessing you want to know what questions to ask her to get her to F-Close? This thread is about Online Sarging and questions regarding that. If you have met her in person then I'm not sure what I can do from an online stand point.

Jon

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Well J, the 21 year old is in the bag much thanks to your helpful hints...here's a new one...

I've been trying to get this HB8 to engage me on match for a while - at least a month. Always short replies followed by no reply for a week or so. She always thought I was funny, but not enough to get any regular convo, until about five days ago...I had almost given up on her, and sent her one last message, ending with

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I hope when we finally meet up, it's not anti-climatic
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That one finally hooked her, I think because I just assumed that we were going to meet even though our convos had never even broached the subject. She said "When do you want to meet" and it quickly progressed from there.

We were supposed to meet up Friday for happy hour, but that fell through, then tonight and it fell through again (she didn't get the email until too late, as she says below) but she wants to reschedule, which of course is a good thing. She's busy until Saturday, here is her latest, underlining the part which is stumping me.

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hey, I'm not able to check this email at work so I just got this now. Its a little late at this point so can we reschedule again? How about this weekend? I have plans the rest of this week, dinner with the family tomorrow night, then thursday and Friday birthday stuff. Curious...most guys would have given up by now, what makes you so persistant? I don't mind but I know I'm not the best at getting back to people on this match thing.
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My answer was going to be this:

Hey Lolo!

This was really no problem...This new house thing is keeping me busy! I tore down a couple walls, dragged 200 lbs. and 38 2x4s to the dump, met with the plumber and then had Comcast people here 'til almost eight and then had to run over to my dad's house to help him install MS Word on my computer - then I had an online masters course class at 10 (it's in San Diego)

If I didn't have the summer off, I'm not sure what I'd do! Almost every day has involved some sort of home improvement project and it doesn't figure to end anytime soon. As for my persistence, well, I almost did give up (like five times haha) but I kept giving you another chance and you kept writing back

Let's do something Saturday - I play soccer in the mornings, but after that should be free....is it your birthday??

Have a great week!



then I added my personal email, so we could take "match" out of the equation.

What think you?

Alisterio,

It looks like you have this pretty well handled. I like how in your message back to her you convey that you are just as busy as she is. Plus you get some DHV for your own house and helping your father. As for your response to the underlined part I think it works. I could come up with some elaborate response but what you wrote is truthful. It also doesn't show any neediness. You simply kept giving her one more chance, and she kept responding. Simple and effective!

It is a very good idea that you get your personal email in there. Honestly, since you are planning a date after she confirms you need to give her your number. Don't ask for her because that could just complicate stuff, just give her yours so she has a way to text or call in case. You are right that you need to take Match.com out of the damn equation because it's hurting us.

I run into this problem a lot. I use the idea from the movie SPEED where Jeff Daniels character turns to Keanu Reeves and says, "Pop quiz. A terrorist is using a hostage at as shield making his way to an airplane. You're 100 ft away, what do you do?" Keanu's character says, "Shoot the hostage. Go for the good wound to the leg, take her out of the equation." I use this approach to many of my problems. Eliminate the complication, in this case Match.com.

Good luck on your date with her!

Jon

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J - thanks again, you're insight is really valuable. I sent that email up there, saying "write me at this address so we can take this "match" email out of the equation" (she had mentioned that it was difficult for her to check that at work)

Anyway, she has already given me her number, I called last Friday and I left a message - she had proposed happy hour but it ended up that she had to leave town to help a friend in Richmond.

She came back on Sunday apologizing for not calling me back - anyway, my point is she has my number but has chosen so far not to call, and just use email.

We have each others' telephone numbers, which is of course the simplest way to communicate in terms of making plans etc...but I didn't want to call her again since she didn't return my call.

The question is, how do I say "just fricking pick up the phone and dial my number, flake" without coming off that way. I wanted to add at the end of my "take match out, etc.." "or you can just dial me up" but felt like that would sound needy...

I would say something along the lines of..."I'm not the best at getting back to people on match. You have my number text me or call me and I think we can make both of our lives a little easier. =)."

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Facebook: How do I open a girl who has added ME to her facebook whilst she is complete stranger. I didn't wanna go with the standard: Sorry but do we know each other (lame).
Any special or clever openers would be much appreciated.
Thnx Jsmooth!

TrueGameBro,

You know that is a good question. Since I don't do a lot with Facebook let me refer you to a good friend of mine that is somewhat an expert on the subject if you will. You can read about his openers and their results here.

facebook-methodfield-tested-approved-vt19004.html

Jon

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I was in Manchester, about three months ago. And I was with friends at some sushi restaurant. I remember my friends (men and women.) They where all talking about this beautiful women at the bar, I didn’t believe that she could be as hot as they said LOL!
Well she walked past and WOW… she was incredibly beautiful.
I thought am going to talk to her, and being the type of person who makes things happen. I got into a great conversation with her.
But despite all that beauty, she just wasn’t **** for me. It didn’t click for me. Needless to say I never called the number she gave me. So you can see just how important **** is to me.

I am writing this expereince as a disqulifier in online gaming.
I think that it disqualifies however i am still unsure of the notion when it comes to online gaming?
What i meant was can you break this down and tell me how i may better phase it to show a 10 frame and show the women what i expect of her?

Thanks Jon

Thanks for you help thus far, I hope I am making progress with this HB10.

Here was my reply to her asking about my weekend, I used some of yours and then added my own spin on the rest,

My reply;

Well after I saved the queen from the assasination attempt. I jumped out of a nice airplane and ski'd down the Swiss Alps.....ok you got me.....I really just have been putting every ounce of creativity into every spare minute (which are hard to find sometimes)into my music and helping one of my bestfriends construct his backyard over the course of the summer. Hopefully all of my charity work for him will pay off. Perhaps it will be on the cover of one of the next issues of "Home and Garden" magazine. My hopes are high aren't they? So what about browneyedxo? You are a gorgeous girl but beauty is common, what makes you unique? Oh and we can't be calling you "Browneyedxo" if you want this adoption process to work out. Thats not what Molder would have called Scully!

Then she replied;

hmmm interesting. I saved Prince Harry from an assasination attempt last weekend so we seem to have a lot in common already lol.
What sets me apart? Not sure, I have beauty but Im down to earth and always there for my friend. I give the best advice and I can make a british gaurd laugh. Does that work for you? Oh yeah and I have no mental health issues, which I've heard is hard to say for half of the people on here.

My name is Wardah (End of email)


She gave me her name and I am not sure where to go from here. How long before I can ask her out or phone number or something. There has only been an exchange of 3 emails I know it is too early. But I want to know about how many emails before I am done the comfort and attraction.

What should I be asking, or saying next. Should I comment on the people on the site she is refering to as mental health issues


Your insite would be greatly appreciated.

Jef_journey,

There is not a set number of emails you have to send before you can ask for her number. It really depends on how long it takes us to establish the comfort and rapport with her. It could take 3 more emails or maybe 7. It is more about content than quantity.

I would say something to her like this to build comfort and attraction. "Wardah pleasure to meet you. That is amazing that you managed to save Prince Harry's butt. You do sound like a down to earth person. I'm the same ways as you in that I"d do most anything for my family and friends. Seems like I'm everyone's big brother. I'm curious what was growing up like for you?"

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