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 Post subject: ok a real question!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:23 pm 
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Hey i been online for a while now, but i find myself really attracted to older women.
I am 21 living in the unk so well above the sex and drinking age to get the perspective. I have had quite a bit of luck with the older women online but it has been speradic.
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Hw does a younger man convay to an older women online that he is not on worthy but isn't as his age displays (young in the mind).
Any openers that you think that could get a response and any thought would be awesome.
Thanks in advance.
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 Post subject: Re: ok a real question!
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Hey i been online for a while now, but i find myself really attracted to older women.
I am 21 living in the unk so well above the sex and drinking age to get the perspective. I have had quite a bit of luck with the older women online but it has been speradic.
So
Hw does a younger man convay to an older women online that he is not on worthy but isn't as his age displays (young in the mind).
Any openers that you think that could get a response and any thought would be awesome.
Thanks in advance.
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This is a good question. I haven't gamed older women really online. I have mainly stuck to younger ones. However, I have a good friend who is really good with Online Game, I know he dates older women, that I'd like to have us help answer this question. Let me message him and ask him to respond to this.

His name is Whoopie. You might have heard his name around on the forum. He invented the Facebook Poke Opener and helped me come up with the systematic steps to online game.

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Hey Reactionz!

I love me some cougars! The whole thing with cougars is you have to do alot of push and pull aswell as rewarding them. If they jump through your hoop you reward them a slight compliment but only if its a big hoop.

The best way to get a older woman into a younger man is by challenging. I do this in person aswell.

I was in Greenville, NC at a bar. I started to walk towards the bathroom. This 30 something year old chica jumped infront of me and started dancing with me. Then instantly said "You way to young for me" I instantly broke the dance and said "Nah, your just to old to keep up with me" I went to the bathroom. I came out of the bathroom and was about to join my friends for shots when she came up and grabbed me. "I will show you I can keep up". We get on the dance floor. Hell if I wasn't black I don't think I would have been able to keep up with her. We danced I made out with her and she said something about her hotel room. I could have probably fclosed but I was the least drunk person for the night. So Bros before Hoes.

Don't over challenge a women. A 44 year old I hook up with about once month told me she loved how I challenged because men her age don't do it and men younger than her just don't know what there doing.

So older women,

Push/Pull- If you need more explaining just ask Jsmooth. He can explain it better than me.

Compliment on when you really mean it. Sometimes they don't even have to do anything. Older women will think, Wow if he can get me I am sure he can get any girl around his age. Thats when you say you like older women because they know what they want and what they like. Then ask her what she wants and what she likes.

Challenge- Make it fun for you and for her. Don't challenge her all the time but if she says "I am really good cook" come up with something like "Yeah Yeah, All women say there a good cook. Then go into a story where a girl claimed she was a good cooked and messed it up. Burnt Cookies or Brownies etc." Be like well when we hang out you can make my favorite dish Lasgana, if its good I will give you a massage!


Warning though- Cougars are alot more aggressive and upfront. So gaming them is easier if you can follow those 3 rules.


LMAO, I forgot you wanted a opener so I had to edit it!

So what is something I would never guess about you, just by looking at you?

^That is a line I use on all women. Sometimes I just open up with that. Sometimes I will give them a compliment and place that line at the end. The Question is so impowering women love to talk about theirself. When she brings it up. Show interest in it, tease her, challenge her. Most men don't have the balls to do this to older women because older women in alot of guys mind is like a powerful female. There is a study that even the most successful women in the world would trade it all in for love.

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Hey Reactionz!

I love me some cougars! The whole thing with cougars is you have to do alot of push and pull aswell as rewarding them. If they jump through your hoop you reward them a slight compliment but only if its a big hoop.

The best way to get a older woman into a younger man is by challenging. I do this in person aswell.

I was in Greenville, NC at a bar. I started to walk towards the bathroom. This 30 something year old chica jumped infront of me and started dancing with me. Then instantly said "You way to young for me" I instantly broke the dance and said "Nah, your just to old to keep up with me" I went to the bathroom. I came out of the bathroom and was about to join my friends for shots when she came up and grabbed me. "I will show you I can keep up". We get on the dance floor. Hell if I wasn't black I don't think I would have been able to keep up with her. We danced I made out with her and she said something about her hotel room. I could have probably fclosed but I was the least drunk person for the night. So Bros before Hoes.

Don't over challenge a women. A 44 year old I hook up with about once month told me she loved how I challenged because men her age don't do it and men younger than her just don't know what there doing.

So older women,

Push/Pull- If you need more explaining just ask Jsmooth. He can explain it better than me.

Compliment on when you really mean it. Sometimes they don't even have to do anything. Older women will think, Wow if he can get me I am sure he can get any girl around his age. Thats when you say you like older women because they know what they want and what they like. Then ask her what she wants and what she likes.

Challenge- Make it fun for you and for her. Don't challenge her all the time but if she says "I am really good cook" come up with something like "Yeah Yeah, All women say there a good cook. Then go into a story where a girl claimed she was a good cooked and messed it up. Burnt Cookies or Brownies etc." Be like well when we hang out you can make my favorite dish Lasgana, if its good I will give you a massage!


Warning though- Cougars are alot more aggressive and upfront. So gaming them is easier if you can follow those 3 rules.


LMAO, I forgot you wanted a opener so I had to edit it!

So what is something I would never guess about you, just by looking at you?

^That is a line I use on all women. Sometimes I just open up with that. Sometimes I will give them a compliment and place that line at the end. The Question is so impowering women love to talk about theirself. When she brings it up. Show interest in it, tease her, challenge her. Most men don't have the balls to do this to older women because older women in alot of guys mind is like a powerful female. There is a study that even the most successful women in the world would trade it all in for love.
Thanks so much Whoopie for your help on this, I greatly appreciate it.

Reactionz I hope this helps give you a better perspective on going after older women both online and in real life.

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 Post subject: thanks!
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Thanks, i have been doing the push pull things and i just need to hype it up a little more. Don't get me wrong am no newbie i just love getting perspectives and learning what can be shared.
So thanks i do appricaite it!
oh and i hope your ready for more questions lol


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 Post subject: Re: thanks!
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Thanks, i have been doing the push pull things and i just need to hype it up a little more. Don't get me wrong am no newbie i just love getting perspectives and learning what can be shared.
So thanks i do appricaite it!
oh and i hope your ready for more questions lol
I'm always ready for more questions. 8)

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 Post subject: openers online!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:28 pm 
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I have been trying the opener you suggested and thought are there any other openers you think are particually useful towards a specific nish or are generally great and if so why???

also i came up with a few and wondered if you could give me tips on there positives and negitives.

hey ....
i have been on this site for a short time now and mostly came into contact with people who are a little odd ....
so if you haven't got a record or stalking or murder check out my profile....
Looking forward to your none weird reply...!


I love that all people are different and just by watching for a little gives you a clue of how unique a person can be (i don't like people that follow the crowd)....so what do you think it is that makes you different from the crowd???

thanks again in advance.
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 Post subject: Re: openers online!
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I have been trying the opener you suggested and thought are there any other openers you think are particually useful towards a specific nish or are generally great and if so why???

also i came up with a few and wondered if you could give me tips on there positives and negitives.

hey ....
i have been on this site for a short time now and mostly came into contact with people who are a little odd ....
so if you haven't got a record or stalking or murder check out my profile....
Looking forward to your none weird reply...!
Sorry I don't really write material for people such as openers. I try to encourage people to come up with ones they like or write. The reason is to keep the congruency. Plus there are tons of openers all over the site. Still I think you have a good one down here.

I don't like the first opener here the way it's worded. I can see what you are trying to do, but do you really want the thoughts "stalking" or "murder" associated with you online? I know what you mean but you get women thinking about this stuff and it weirds them a bit.

This can be something you save for later when talking to them. I'll joke at times to take away fear. Things like, "You're not some crazy internet killer are you, LOL?" But I don't really do it as an opener.
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I love that all people are different and just by watching for a little gives you a clue of how unique a person can be (i don't like people that follow the crowd)....so what do you think it is that makes you different from the crowd???

thanks again in advance.
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I like this one because it's unique and it gets her to qualify to you a bit up front, and definitely is going for a better response. I'm interested to hear how this opener ends up working out for you.

Of course, if you would like Whoopie's opinion on these you can alway send him a private message through the forum, and he'd be happy to look at these too.

Good Luck out there,

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Hey tnx for reply man.
WHat do u think about matchbookmethod. Do u think i will work on hi5 too is something similar.
The guy there says he has some copy and paste material i wonder what kind of openers does he use...


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Hey tnx for reply man.
WHat do u think about matchbookmethod. Do u think i will work on hi5 too is something similar.
The guy there says he has some copy and paste material i wonder what kind of openers does he use...
Actually, I am somewhat familiar with the Matchbook Method. There is are two great guys that I know who teach that stuff. One of them is 'Vapor' and the other is 'Action Jackson' and both are very good. The method works very well on MySpace and in other places.

In my opinion its one of the few methods out there I've seen that get consistent results.

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If yall wait a couple of months there will be a new book coming out by Action Jackson. He is covering Facebook and Myspace on it.

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If yall wait a couple of months there will be a new book coming out by Action Jackson. He is covering Facebook and Myspace on it.
Sweet, good call!

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Man questions like where do u live, what do u work what are your parents wehn is your birthday what do u usualy do some ppl said there are bulishit but i like to ask thsese when i am talking. how do u find those things.


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Man questions like where do u live, what do u work what are your parents wehn is your birthday what do u usualy do some ppl said there are bulishit but i like to ask thsese when i am talking. how do u find those things.
Okay first of all you can ask them later on but here is why I don't ask them, with the exception of where do you live.

Where do you live is relavent because it establishes logistics about whether or not you two can date easily.

Do do you do for work? It's ok, but most people are online and meeting people to escape their everyday boring lives. The same reason people go out to clubs or bars for a while. Why do you want to remind them of this?
It'll probably come up sooner or later, but it doesn't matter at first. I usually get into this stuff on the date and not online. The same goes with when is your birthday.

I want to be her boyfriend and not her best friend. I don't care when her B-Day is really at first. My only goal is to attract the girl and get a date, period. The other stuff can be discussed on the first date or maybe even the second. These are just tired questions.

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 Post subject: SEAN MESSENGER
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HEY GUYS,

I wanted to share with you this awesome video that Sean Messenger one our featured posters put online today. He has some great tips in it.

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Enjoy,

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