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I got the following situation with a girl i met on a chatroom. She is from another state but theres possibility for her to come to my state because she has family here.
When i started i didnt know about PU nor anything. Now that i do im going to start using the tools. She was just telling me about how her ex called her for her bday and that another guy may go visit her. So, how do i go with making her want me? I tried the other guys seem like they were gonna hurt her. She still has no idea of my intentions though. I also im afraid i will turn into a friend, status which i wont be able to take away easly.
Anyy tips? Thanks.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. "It's easier to start over than fix present situations, in most cases."

When you go through the various online methods you need to start building attraction from the beginning by inserting various DHV spikes in your messages.

You can also use false disqualifiers to create a "push/pull" effect so that you are creating attraction as well.

You also need to build and establish comfort with her so that you can escalate to getting her IM contact info and her phone number, and eventually a date.

If you start doing this all now it's not going to be "congruent" with the person you started out as talking to her. Women have great intuition and will recognize this and become leary of you. This is why my first statement holds true.
Ok, thanks a lot! Ill have it in mind.


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I used the "tell me three things about you" opener and got back, "I am not sure how to answer that question, was it suppose to be sarcastic?"

How should I respond?
We're going to come off weird if we say it wasn't suppose to be sarcastic even though the truth is we wanted her to qualify to us. Unfortuntely, she's not going for it. If we say, "yes" then we will get an "mmmmkaaay" type response from her where she's not sure about us kind of thing.

We basically say something like, "Yes, I was being sarcastic. But seriously what are some of your more redeeming characteristics besides your looks? I refuse to believe you get by on charm alone."

Tough spot to be put in, but this should get you where you want to be.

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Ok, thanks a lot! Ill have it in mind.
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Hi there, I apologise firstly if this is a constantly asked question.

Been talking to this girl from a dating site and I've got her on msn but have'nt spoken to her.

She's nice seems quite innocent and stuff but she's been consistantly talking to me so I think she's interested, she asks things about me so I assume thats atleast a small IOI

How long should I wait while talking to her on msn to ask her out without seeming either hasty, or shy and not leaving it too long?

A general rough time would be good, I've spoke to her for a couple weeks now.


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Hi there, I apologise firstly if this is a constantly asked question.

Been talking to this girl from a dating site and I've got her on msn but have'nt spoken to her.

She's nice seems quite innocent and stuff but she's been consistantly talking to me so I think she's interested, she asks things about me so I assume thats atleast a small IOI

How long should I wait while talking to her on msn to ask her out without seeming either hasty, or shy and not leaving it too long?

A general rough time would be good, I've spoke to her for a couple weeks now.
If you have been talking to her on messenger for a little while then it's time to start thinking about asking her out. Of course, I'm assuming we have Attraction Built and I figure if you've been talking this long she's comfortable with you.

Her askng about you can be an IOI but it could be her just being friendly as well. It's hard to know without the context it was said within.

GO ahead and ask for her phone number, then get a date. That way you have means to contact her and follow up in case something goes wrong.

ENJOY YOUR DATE,

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Would it be a big no no if I dont get her number before asking her out?

I'm quite uncomfortable on the phone and it'd be a DLV I reckon as it's pretty easy to hear someone's uneasiness on the phone.

Or would it be a DLV to NOT get her number first?

Ahhh a fools catch 22 lol....

Thnx for the response dude it's appreciated.


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Would it be a big no no if I dont get her number before asking her out?

I'm quite uncomfortable on the phone and it'd be a DLV I reckon as it's pretty easy to hear someone's uneasiness on the phone.

Or would it be a DLV to NOT get her number first?

Ahhh a fools catch 22 lol....

Thnx for the response dude it's appreciated.
You're overcomplicating this. Either can work, you can ask her out online if you are more comfortable that way. Just get her # so you have a way to contact her just in case.

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Groovy :)

I'll let you's know how this pans out.


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HI i am new here i am from Romania and i am 20 years old. Man most of the ppl are using messenger in my country special the hichschool girls or even the college girls. I am not a native english speacker and i do mistakes when i whrite sry about that.

Man i have some questions I know my post is long but i need to ask

1 Where can i see an good discution with a girl on messenger (a proper discution)
2 On messenger how about to put a pic with her on your avatar even if she is not your gf, most of the ppl are doing this with thier gf.
if she ask you: Why do u puted the pic with me?
WHat are your ppl from your list sayin about you having my pic at your avatar lol?
whats good to say?
3 How is better to ask her out? I will like to see you sometime
When do we go to a drink
Lets go it he town and have a walk
I know some good place to eat
I mean be more direct or i dunno ask her opinion about this?
4. Man i use to do grammer mistakes when i talk on mes do u think this is bad like showing a lack of confidence?
5. How good are the use of Emoticons. What if u put a smile after you say something.
6. For ex i stretch i can do Both Side or Front Splits how can i use this as a advantage. Coz i showed a pic with me to a girl and he said so what? in th begining was interesed than ... I mean how can u use hobbies like this as an advantage and obtain a pozitve reaction when show.
7. If u get refused when u asked her out how is better to respond, what to say. If u still want to continue the converstaion hoping that in the future she will acept or thats it?
8.how it is good to compliment her if she looking not soo interesed. I said some times mean that they pretty nice or even the best.
9 man if u say lol on messenger does that look like a kid.
10 if u are talking on messenger and u dont get a respond fast what to do?
11 If u are getting short responses what to do?
12 What if u send her 3 lines and she is sending u one?( i mean u talk more than her)
13. Is not good to look affected if u get refused or a negative reaction right?
14 What if u tell a girl what u fell for her on mes?
15 i s good to respond fast or wait a few seconds or shit like this.
16 When is good to ask her out fist time u talked to her on mes or after 2 or 3 times?
17 How is good to respond if u get: Why did u did that?
WHat for?
18 How is good to ask her to give a a pic with her? Coz sometimes i got WHY? what for?
19 is good to ask her if she is with somebody? I asked a girl if she got merried lol? and she said Why are u asking me? and i didnt know much to say so i said I was just asking.
20 Man is good to ask if she had sex?
21 man if a girl things that u are imature or shit like that coz i used to make funny in class how do u change that.
22 How is goo to say that u changed i mean u are not doing the things that u did wrong in the past anymore.
23 There was a girl who was interesed in me but this was 3 years ago but back than i didnt liked her much and i was kind of "stupid" she come at me but i didnt took the oportunity and not she looks not interesed anymore. What to do? She was with me in class but i was barely coming to school in that year and i got "removed" from highschoo because i missed to muchl. From come to sit with me in the bench 2 years later she said when i paid a visit in that class sit there (not clouse to her.)
23 How about do adress someties with sweety or dear lol ?
24 What if u get refused but u want a reson? I mean when u ask her out she just sais NO. WHat u if want to say no because?
25 Does is any good to say think like: What do u think i am not serious?
Do u think that i might to soemthing bad to u?
I mean to get kind of revolted.
26 How much is good to talk with a girl online? SHorter 10-15 min, 30 min? last time i taleked i dunno 2 or 3 hours lol.


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This isn't a question only for me, but I think it's a problem a lot of guys will run into on MySpace, Facebook, etc, JSmooth. How do you deal with extra sensitive girls that fly into a very defensive and emotional frenzy when a neg is used on her?

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This isn't a question only for me, but I think it's a problem a lot of guys will run into on MySpace, Facebook, etc, JSmooth. How do you deal with extra sensitive girls that fly into a very defensive and emotional frenzy when a neg is used on her?
I would back up. I have had this happen to me several times when I throw a hard neg at a HB6 or HB7. Here is what I tend to do. I will say something to the effect of, "Hey, I didn't mean to cross the line with my remark. It is just my way to push and see where the limits are on people. Now that I know where yours are I promised I won't cross it again."

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HI i am new here i am from Romania and i am 20 years old. Man most of the ppl are using messenger in my country special the hichschool girls or even the college girls. I am not a native english speacker and i do mistakes when i whrite sry about that.
Graber,

I'll try my best to answer all your questions. You certainly have some good ones down there to talk about.
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Man i have some questions I know my post is long but i need to ask

1 Where can i see an good discution with a girl on messenger (a proper discution)
I posted this on another forum actually for someone to reference. I would repost it here but this post is already very long. Here is the link to it.

http://www.tripps-pua-forum.com/online- ... -t1991.htm
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2 On messenger how about to put a pic with her on your avatar even if she is not your gf, most of the ppl are doing this with thier gf.
if she ask you: Why do u puted the pic with me?
WHat are your ppl from your list sayin about you having my pic at your avatar lol?
whats good to say?
That sounds kind of creepy to do. I would stay away from doing that. Why would we want to do anything that might make her think twice about us? Let's avoid doing this all together and we won't have to answer questions about it.
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3 How is better to ask her out? I will like to see you sometime
When do we go to a drink
Lets go it he town and have a walk
I know some good place to eat
I mean be more direct or i dunno ask her opinion about this?
Be direct and to the point. Girls very much appreciate this. Plus when you are online you don't have the benefit of seeing body language. It's harder for girls to pickup on the "Hint" that you are throwing them. Ask them directly to go.
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4. Man i use to do grammer mistakes when i talk on mes do u think this is bad like showing a lack of confidence?
Grammer isn't that important with communicating through instant messenger. As a matter of fact most people don't use punctuation at all. Although, I have received several compliments on my proper grammer use. However, spelling is a very important aspect to communicating. I would ensure your spelling is good.

Bottom line here is this. Punctuation don't worry about so much. Spelling you need to have down. If you can do both then it only helps you out.
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5. How good are the use of Emoticons. What if u put a smile after you say something.
Very. Since you can't convey body language and expressions online these help a lot to show those emotions. I think its very important to use these.
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6. For ex i stretch i can do Both Side or Front Splits how can i use this as a advantage. Coz i showed a pic with me to a girl and he said so what? in th begining was interesed than ... I mean how can u use hobbies like this as an advantage and obtain a pozitve reaction when show.
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question in regards to the picture. However, I do understand what you mean about using your hobbies to obtain a positie response like a DHV or (Demonstration of Higher Value) there are lots of threads on this site dedicated to helping people write these types of stories. I'd normally write more on this but we still have many more questions to answer.

You might want to reference some of my previous posts where I talked about this.
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7. If u get refused when u asked her out how is better to respond, what to say. If u still want to continue the converstaion hoping that in the future she will acept or thats it?
If she refuses you don't make it out to be a big deal, because it isn't. You just keep talking to her like it doesn't matter. Then you keep talking to her and building on the appropriate steps, then ask her again later.
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8.how it is good to compliment her if she looking not soo interesed. I said some times mean that they pretty nice or even the best.
I really don't understand this question. You can compliment her however you desire as long as it's needed; rewarding her for good behaviour.
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9 man if u say lol on messenger does that look like a kid.
No, it doesn't pretty much everyone uses it.

[quote[10 if u are talking on messenger and u dont get a respond fast what to do?[/quote]

It depends. If it just takes her a few minutes to respond each time you type something she might be destracted by something going on around her. Ask her if it's a bad time to talk, and talk to her later. If not just wait it out but realize you might not have enough attraction built. If she really likes you she's going to be waiting for you to respond to her.
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11 If u are getting short responses what to do?
Again, this is an Indicator of Disinterest online. You need to go back and work on building attraction through DHV (Demonstration of HIgher Value) embedded stories. IF she's not attracted to you then she's not interested, and thus gives you short responses.
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12 What if u send her 3 lines and she is sending u one?( i mean u talk more than her)
Same answer as for #11.

[quote[13. Is not good to look affected if u get refused or a negative reaction right?[/quote]

You don't want to look affected. As an alpha males you don't get upset or rattled by anything. Nothing is a "Big Deal" to you. So keep negative reactions to yourself.
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14 What if u tell a girl what u fell for her on mes?
There is nothing wrong with displaying interest to women at a point. However, telling her you fell for her is going to be throwing yourself at her. You have no more moves to make and the ball is in her court. It's hard to use "push/pull" techniques and disinterest to create attraction when she knows you've fell for her.

I wouldn't do this again. It's one thing to do it later on in the "relationship" but not during "courtship" at all. After you do it you just have to let it play out.
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15 i s good to respond fast or wait a few seconds or shit like this.


Take a few moments to respond. Don't go as quickly as you can. Again, it shows too much interest. It shows you have nothing better to do than respond to her. Again, "non needy" behaviour is a DHV spike. So just wait a little bit before responding.
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16 When is good to ask her out fist time u talked to her on mes or after 2 or 3 times?
It depends. This is so situational there is no # of times. It depends on how many times you've talked in email. How much attraction/comfort is built between you two. How the thing "feels" overall. Also, how long you've talked in IM as well.
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17 How is good to respond if u get: Why did u did that?
WHat for?
Depends on what you did before to prompt her asking that.
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18 How is good to ask her to give a a pic with her? Coz sometimes i got WHY? what for?
It's okay but again you need some comfort and rapport built first. I'd probably say something like. "I'd like to place a face to the words."
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19 is good to ask her if she is with somebody? I asked a girl if she got merried lol? and she said Why are u asking me? and i didnt know much to say so i said I was just asking.
I don't ask, because I really don't want to know. It's really not up to you to ask these questions. She has to be responsible for herself. If she's in a relationship married or otherwise she shouldn't really be talking to you. Don't ask, unless she asks first.
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20 Man is good to ask if she had sex?
No. This leads to awkward conversations about, when, how many, and other things you really don't want to know. There are no good answers to these questions even if the answer is she's a virgin or you are. Keep things simple and don't ask this, it leads to complications. You can save it for later if it's really important to you.
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21 man if a girl things that u are imature or shit like that coz i used to make funny in class how do u change that.
You really can no more change the first impressions people have of you any more than you can change the weather. Still, how you behave is a direct reflection on that. You can only change how you act now, and point her attention to that fact.
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22 How is goo to say that u changed i mean u are not doing the things that u did wrong in the past anymore.


Just say exactly that.
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23 There was a girl who was interesed in me but this was 3 years ago but back than i didnt liked her much and i was kind of "stupid" she come at me but i didnt took the oportunity and not she looks not interesed anymore. What to do? She was with me in class but i was barely coming to school in that year and i got "removed" from highschoo because i missed to muchl. From come to sit with me in the bench 2 years later she said when i paid a visit in that class sit there (not clouse to her.)
Moving on to someone else is much easier than fixing this stuff. Honestly, I don't know enough about the situation to tell you. I hate to sound like an asshole but you dug this hole, you have to dig your way out of it.
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23 How about do adress someties with sweety or dear lol ?
This is okay but watch her reactions to this with what she types afterwards. If she says a single word response, something like "Ok..." then don't use it anymore for a while.
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24 What if u get refused but u want a reson? I mean when u ask her out she just sais NO. WHat u if want to say no because?
Don't do this. It doesn't matter what the reason is. We're not in sales here where she gives you an objection and it's your job to overcome it. It's your job to make you like you so much, she doesn't ever object in the first place. When she says No accept it, act like it doesn't bother you, and just go back and figure what you need more of "Attraction or Comfort".
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25 Does is any good to say think like: What do u think i am not serious?
Do u think that i might to soemthing bad to u?
I mean to get kind of revolted.
No, don't do this. Again it doesn't matter. Stop placing the woman on the pedastel. Have the mindset that: You don't care if you get a date with her. You don't care if she ends up liking you. When you detach yourself from the outcome of the situation you do better, trust me.
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26 How much is good to talk with a girl online? SHorter 10-15 min, 30 min? last time i taleked i dunno 2 or 3 hours lol.
I've talked for short times and long periods of times. I wouldn't personally go much longer than maybe half and hour to and hour before I told her I had something to do. I like to be the first one to "end" the conversation. I like to appear busy and "in demand" when I can. People like things that are in demand and "rare".

Overall you had some great questions. I think you'll learn a lot from this. You're over analyzing things a bit. Make sure to follow up and search the forum for areas where to make your DHV stories, and look at that IM conversation on the link I put at the top.

Also, look back through the questions on this thread already as many of these have already been asked before.

Have a good one,

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Tnx for reply man, my question where noobish i guess.
I had 3 gf until now maybe is shit but the big things was that they come at me i didnt had to do soemthing special or is just what i fell about it and there was also for short periods of time.
I sow the PUA thing on youtube and eveywhere i search in the end i get a buy i dunno what kind o shit mesage.
1 But where can i see a discussion on mesenger featuring the MM i mean the A1 2 3, C 1 2 3. ( for ex i ask one of my friends to give me a girls id from his list and than tot alk to her)
2 Last girl that i dated was realy interesed about me (she was from my school) so it was nothing big... but 16 years old.
3 why girls want older guys? 15 years girl 20 years boy, 19 23 years, or even 20 years girl 27 years old, and when i heard about the thin that they are more mature it just makes me sort of mad, how the fuck a 22 years old guy not me more mature than a 17 years kid?
4 THere was a 16 old girl at some point she started to reply me after some time( i mean not reply imediatly i had to eait some time even minutes) and i said to her that i get angry or upset about this and she started to reply fast lol.
5 If u end a converstion with no big results or if she refused u if u want to talk to her again is good to wait a few days and than come back?
6 What if a girl is online and u talked to her yestarday but this time u dont talk to her it is good or bad?
7 I really want to test the thing with the DHV storie but i didnt thinked to a good one. ( when i said to a girl that i dont skip class i dont miss form shcool anymore now i study better i am fine things like that was this more like a dhv?)
8 Dont tell about your problems right?
9 Man i heard that the online Sarging is harder it is true?


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Tnx for reply man, my question where noobish i guess.
I had 3 gf until now maybe is shit but the big things was that they come at me i didnt had to do soemthing special or is just what i fell about it and there was also for short periods of time.
I sow the PUA thing on youtube and eveywhere i search in the end i get a buy i dunno what kind o shit mesage.
Hey man, I'm happy to help the best I can and answer a few questions for people but we're kind of setting a record here.
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1 But where can i see a discussion on mesenger featuring the MM i mean the A1 2 3, C 1 2 3. ( for ex i ask one of my friends to give me a girls id from his list and than tot alk to her)
If you know the method well then you'll see it in the link that I sent you. There isn't anything like that, that I am aware of. However, you have to understand the idea of Online game is relatively new and has only been around a few years.

I have a model that I use but it doesn't follow mystery's model really. With online game you are really building comfort, and spicing in things to build attraction. It's not as linear of a process as the M3 Model from Mystery.
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2 Last girl that i dated was realy interesed about me (she was from my school) so it was nothing big... but 16 years old.
So what's the question here?
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3 why girls want older guys? 15 years girl 20 years boy, 19 23 years, or even 20 years girl 27 years old, and when i heard about the thin that they are more mature it just makes me sort of mad, how the fuck a 22 years old guy not me more mature than a 17 years kid?
Most women 'think' they want older guys. Maturity is one reason but there is a bigger reason. Most people who are older are in their career, and are stable in their lives. Most people under the age of 27 are graduating college and finding a job. Stability is a big thing for women, if you didn't already figure that out.

It doesn't mean you don't have a shot. It's just what they think they want.
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4 THere was a 16 old girl at some point she started to reply me after some time( i mean not reply imediatly i had to eait some time even minutes) and i said to her that i get angry or upset about this and she started to reply fast lol.
I wouldn't have said that, but it's somewhat an indicator of interest that she is trying not to piss you off.
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5 If u end a converstion with no big results or if she refused u if u want to talk to her again is good to wait a few days and than come back?
Yes, sometimes this can be extremely helpful. You don't want to wait so long that you are forgotten though.
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6 What if a girl is online and u talked to her yestarday but this time u dont talk to her it is good or bad?
This is a common situation so I'm glad you asked this question. It depends. If you are referring to instant messenger for example. If she sees you are online and you don't talk to her she's going to wonder why. However, I would talk to her for just a short period of time.

If she doesn't know you're online and you are "Invisible" then I wouldn't.

We don't want her to think that you have no life and sit in front of the computer all day long.
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7 I really want to test the thing with the DHV storie but i didnt thinked to a good one. ( when i said to a girl that i dont skip class i dont miss form shcool anymore now i study better i am fine things like that was this more like a dhv?)
Not really. Those things are good, but they are not DHV spikes. To learn more about DHV spikes I'd read Mystery's book. The top DHV spikes are below. If you can somehow convey these to her she'll become attracted to you.

Leader of Men
Protector of Loved Ones
Pre-Selection by women
Non-Needy Behaviour
Willingness to show Emotions
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8 Dont tell about your problems right?
RIGHT, don't tell her.
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9 Man i heard that the online Sarging is harder it is true?
No it's not any harder. In my opinion night game is the hardest for people to learn. However, don't use Online Game as the only thing you do. It is important that you still go out and meet people normally. You will need those skills you develop from doing that, online. Make this more of a side project.

Graber, I hope this answers your questions. Don't be afraid to fail online. Failures are what taught me how to be better at it. There are plenty of women out there, and especially online.

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Location: Nashville
Online IM Convo I actually had. With footnotes for Graber and others.
I was watching the show America's Got Talent. What I really want you to get from this is how I interweave both comfort and attraction. It's not really in a linear flow. I go back and forth, because that is what is needed. The important part isn't so much when I do it, just that I do complete those steps.

This convo is almost an hour long.

HB8(9:04:03 PM): hey
jsmooth (9:05:47 PM): hey crazy
jsmooth (9:05:52 PM): you got talent? (A1 - My opener)
HB8(9:06:13 PM): hahaha....
HB8(9:06:16 PM): it wasnt that great.
HB8(9:06:20 PM): im just a sucker for reality tv
HB8(9:07:34 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:07:52 PM): LOL
jsmooth (9:09:07 PM): Ready to get back? (She was out of town I am just building rapport and comfort here)
HB8(9:10:22 PM): I am ready to go back to nashville so bad
HB8(9:10:24 PM): im sick of sc
jsmooth (9:11:10 PM): I hear that
jsmooth (9:11:21 PM): So what do you want to do most when you get back
HB8(9:11:35 PM): Work. lol... i do go out on the weekends though.
jsmooth (9:11:44 PM): I know
jsmooth (9:11:54 PM): well that's what I meant
jsmooth (9:12:11 PM): We'll have to plan an adventure (Setting up to ask her out later on in the convo. just planting a seed)
HB8(9:12:36 PM): Absolutely.
HB8(9:12:40 PM): I'm always game for going out.
jsmooth (9:13:13 PM): Great, then when are we hanging out? And I'll make the adventure I like using words like "Adventure" as oppose to date
HB8(9:14:14 PM): Maybe when I get back sometime...
HB8(9:14:25 PM): I'd rather you come out with me and my friends first if that's alright. (She is just being cautious, no big deal)
jsmooth (9:14:40 PM): As long as I can bring my friends
HB8(9:14:46 PM): sure
jsmooth (9:14:47 PM): LOL, I'm not sure I trust you either (Calling her out on her shit, I'm showing she can trust me)
HB8(9:14:52 PM): Well then.
HB8(9:14:53 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:14:54 PM): you're probably some stalker (This is just being playful and showing some disinterest)
HB8(9:14:58 PM): You got me.
jsmooth (9:15:01 PM): going to text me 80 times a day (cocky funny)
jsmooth (9:15:06 PM): and kill me with an icepick
HB8(9:15:08 PM): lol nooooo
jsmooth (9:15:13 PM): dont' even hide it
jsmooth (9:15:15 PM): LOL
jsmooth (9:15:29 PM): your secret is safe with me, Silence of the Lambs
HB8(9:15:49 PM): lol
HB8(9:15:52 PM): you're funny.(glad she thinks I am)
jsmooth (9:16:34 PM): Thanks
jsmooth (9:16:46 PM): I got it
jsmooth (9:16:57 PM): I know why you want all your friends there
jsmooth (9:17:01 PM): I'm with you
HB8(9:17:03 PM): Hahaha...
jsmooth (9:17:04 PM): you're pretty smart
HB8(9:17:09 PM): That could be it...
HB8(9:17:12 PM): Not exactly...
HB8(9:17:14 PM): but part of it
jsmooth (9:17:28 PM): well
jsmooth (9:17:33 PM): I got this plan figured out
jsmooth (9:17:41 PM): so while they're deciding if I'm good enough for you
jsmooth (9:17:45 PM): even though you responded to me
jsmooth (9:18:01 PM): you're slipping stuff in my drink to take me home and rape me (Again, being cocky funny. I'm also trying to make her realize I'm not some crazy internet person. I'm making her realize how stupid bringing her friends is. It's not needed)
jsmooth (9:18:04 PM): I see how it is
jsmooth (9:18:11 PM): you almost had me fooled (This is A2 by the way)
HB8(9:18:12 PM): Once again, you got me.
jsmooth (9:18:24 PM): It's like Professor Plumb in the library with the candle stick all over again More cocky funny...I'm conveying my personality here too.
jsmooth (9:18:26 PM): LMAO
HB8(9:18:37 PM): lol!
HB8(9:18:54 PM): wow...
jsmooth (9:19:27 PM): LOL
jsmooth (9:19:58 PM): So where is it you and your friends hang out, and I'll try and make an appearance. (See how I'm not committing to anything yet)
HB8(9:20:09 PM): I told yoooou.
HB8(9:20:11 PM): Tin Roof.
HB8(9:20:12 PM):
jsmooth (9:20:18 PM): Dang I have to go in there Being playful
HB8(9:20:24 PM): That place is AWESOME
HB8(9:20:25 PM): are you crazy
jsmooth (9:20:29 PM): Well, a man's got to do what a man's got to do
jsmooth (9:20:36 PM): No that's cool
jsmooth (9:20:53 PM): Roof is alright but its so tiny
HB8(9:20:57 PM): i love it.
HB8(9:21:01 PM): im a regular.
jsmooth (9:21:05 PM): I know
jsmooth (9:21:06 PM): you mentioned Showing her I pay attention
jsmooth (9:21:15 PM): it's all coming back to me
jsmooth (9:22:34 PM): I don't know that my friends would honestly go there, but if you need your friends to judge me first then that's not a problem. I'll warn you though I might turn them against you (This is me demonstrating value and being confident.)
jsmooth (9:22:45 PM): I want you to feel safe (More comfort building)
jsmooth (9:22:52 PM): on second thought
jsmooth (9:23:08 PM): meet me behind the 3rd dumpster on the alley near 5th avenue. (A2 doing push.pull tactics)
jsmooth (9:23:09 PM): at 3am
jsmooth (9:23:16 PM): LOL
HB8(9:23:21 PM): Negative inspector gadget.
lol
jsmooth (9:23:31 PM): Go go gadget foot in mouth
jsmooth (9:23:37 PM): LOL
jsmooth (9:24:05 PM): where did the inspector gadget thing come from
HB8(9:24:25 PM): I always say that.
jsmooth (9:26:00 PM): ok
jsmooth (9:26:03 PM): weirdo
HB8(9:26:16 PM): that would be me
jsmooth (9:26:54 PM): we're all weird in some way
jsmooth (9:27:19 PM): anything else I need to be warned about
HB8(9:27:26 PM): nope
jsmooth (9:27:33 PM): Fess up now because you're friends will just warn me later Showing confidence that her friends will like me
HB8(9:27:43 PM): i love to make out when im drunk.
HB8(9:27:43 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:27:55 PM): Well
jsmooth (9:28:03 PM): this will never work (MORE A2)
jsmooth (9:28:08 PM): because I do too
jsmooth (9:28:17 PM): and we'll never get to know each other and we'll just kiss all night (Sexualizing the conversation)
jsmooth (9:28:21 PM): and where will that get us
HB8(9:28:23 PM): im game.
HB8(9:28:24 PM): lol
HB8(9:28:29 PM): im kidding (No she isn't. She wants me)
jsmooth (9:28:33 PM): I'll be honest with you for a second (A3)
jsmooth (9:28:40 PM): can you handle that
HB8(9:28:44 PM): yeah go for it
jsmooth (9:29:00 PM): Okay when I saw your picture, I thought to myself "Damn, I bet she's a good kisser"
jsmooth (9:29:08 PM): So I'll ask you
jsmooth (9:29:13 PM): on a scale from 1-10
jsmooth (9:29:17 PM): 10 being the best
HB8(9:29:23 PM): I'm not gonna lie..... 10.
HB8(9:29:27 PM): I've been told I'm amazing. (Still Sexualizing, and getting her thinking about kissing)
HB8(9:29:31 PM): at a number of things..
jsmooth (9:29:33 PM): well then you've met your match
HB8(9:29:35 PM): whether it be in the sack...
HB8(9:29:38 PM): or kissing (She she wasn't kidding earlier)
HB8(9:29:39 PM): lol (It works)!
jsmooth (9:29:40 PM): easy now
HB8(9:29:54 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:29:59 PM): I can tell you're a very sexual person
HB8(9:30:08 PM): I tend to be at times.
jsmooth (9:30:13 PM): that's good
jsmooth (9:30:18 PM): I don't hold back
jsmooth (9:30:32 PM): if I like someone and it works out then it's typically on to a degree
jsmooth (9:31:01 PM): so this leads me to two questions
HB8(9:31:08 PM): yes?
jsmooth (9:31:11 PM): #1 Your views on PDA
HB8(9:31:31 PM): I'm okay with it.... but I don't like to be really public with it...like making it OBVIOUS.
jsmooth (9:31:41 PM): good
jsmooth (9:31:49 PM): #2 you so want to kiss me don't you
HB8(9:32:09 PM): get me drunk if you think i havent gotten to know you well... and then i will...
HB8(9:32:09 PM): lol
HB8(9:32:12 PM): i do love to kiss tho
jsmooth (9:32:20 PM): here's the thing
jsmooth (9:32:24 PM): I don't need to get you drunk
jsmooth (9:32:32 PM): if you didn't like me you wouldn't have asked me for a second pic I'm calling her out on her bluff. She is acting disinterested but I know better. Be careful doing this, not all girls like being called on it. However, it demonstrates you're socially savvy, and confident.
jsmooth (9:32:44 PM): you'd kiss me anyways
jsmooth (9:32:48 PM): ....
HB8(9:33:14 PM): Yeah, you're right
jsmooth (9:33:31 PM): Oh and since you mentioned the SACK
jsmooth (9:33:43 PM): I'm very good with my tongue, and can be very good with it for a long time (This is risky but she's being playful)
HB8(9:34:04 PM): I like you already. (Damn it worked)
jsmooth (9:34:11 PM): hahaha
jsmooth (9:34:17 PM): We're going to get along
jsmooth (9:34:22 PM): unless you say something stupid More push/pull
jsmooth (9:34:27 PM): you won't will you
HB8(9:34:31 PM): i tend to be silly sometimes...
HB8(9:34:37 PM): i love to cut up.
jsmooth (9:34:42 PM): you might totally turn me off with something
HB8(9:34:46 PM): nah
jsmooth (9:34:53 PM): okay just don't speak and we're gold (More Disinterest...I pulled her in and just pushed her away) Amping up the attraction.
jsmooth (9:34:57 PM): LOL
HB8(9:35:03 PM): ... :-/
jsmooth (9:35:05 PM): just make out
HB8(9:35:07 PM): haha
jsmooth (9:35:10 PM): hahah
HB8(9:35:11 PM): makeout buddies are always fun.
jsmooth (9:35:16 PM): sometimes
jsmooth (9:35:23 PM): but it takes more than that to keep me around
jsmooth (9:35:29 PM): I think this is going to be fun Projecting positive feelings toward things, I tend to do this a lot. Also known as anchoring.
HB8(9:36:22 PM): I don't like relationships to get too much about the sexual things though.
HB8(9:36:28 PM): That has ruined it for me NUMEROUS times.
jsmooth (9:36:37 PM): no kididng
jsmooth (9:36:54 PM): as I said it takes more than that to keep me around
jsmooth (9:37:01 PM): you know what I really value (A3)
HB8(9:37:23 PM): what
jsmooth (9:37:46 PM): Well I love someone who has a good personality
jsmooth (9:37:50 PM): which you seem to have
HB8(9:37:51 PM): That would be me.
HB8(9:37:52 PM):
jsmooth (9:37:59 PM): and I love someone with a strong energy
HB8(9:37:59 PM): I am the epitome of an extravert.
jsmooth (9:38:04 PM): which you have
jsmooth (9:38:11 PM): and someone with a good outlook on life
jsmooth (9:38:14 PM): you have 2 out of 3
jsmooth (9:38:18 PM): you're on a good start
jsmooth (9:39:20 PM):
HB8(9:39:23 PM): yay thanks
jsmooth (9:39:32 PM): So what time am I meetng you this weekend (All is great, time to close)
jsmooth (9:39:35 PM): so I can plan ahead
HB8(9:39:35 PM): So is your family in Nashville?
HB8(9:39:41 PM): Hahaha, I am not in town until August 10th.
HB8(9:39:43 PM): I'm in SC. (Back to comfort since she's not available)
jsmooth (9:39:45 PM): that's right
jsmooth (9:39:48 PM): I thought it was sooner
jsmooth (9:40:08 PM): well my family is slightly complicated
jsmooth (9:40:14 PM): I'm adopted
HB8(9:40:20 PM): awesome.
jsmooth (9:40:25 PM): so I have my adoptive parents who raised me in Bowling Green
jsmooth (9:40:28 PM): where I grew up
jsmooth (9:40:42 PM): then I have my biological parents in Alabama
jsmooth (9:40:51 PM): then I have 3 half brothers and 3 half sisters
jsmooth (9:40:54 PM): here and there
HB8(9:41:00 PM): Wow... that's awesome.
jsmooth (9:41:01 PM): but no family here
HB8(9:41:04 PM): I'm an only child.
HB8(9:41:10 PM): All my family is in SC/GA
jsmooth (9:41:13 PM): I was until I found my biological family (More comfort)
jsmooth (9:41:15 PM): I see
HB8(9:41:48 PM): awesome.
HB8(9:41:53 PM): Well, I was born in Augusta GA
jsmooth (9:41:57 PM): cool
HB8(9:41:58 PM): Raised in Aiken, SC
HB8(9:42:14 PM): lived in North Augusta, SC for the last 15 years
jsmooth (9:42:21 PM): wow
HB8(9:43:20 PM): yep!
jsmooth (9:43:49 PM): So how old are you
jsmooth (9:44:02 PM): I don't think I bothered to ask until this moment
HB8(9:44:37 PM): 21
HB8(9:44:41 PM): hey brb for a second
jsmooth (9:44:44 PM): that's right
jsmooth (9:44:48 PM): and 5'4
jsmooth (9:44:49 PM): ok
HB8(9:46:06 PM): back
HB8(9:46:15 PM): Yes. I am vertically challenged.
HB8(9:46:17 PM): Blahhh
jsmooth (9:46:28 PM): I'm tall enough for both of us
HB8(9:46:35 PM): 6'2" right??
jsmooth (9:46:37 PM): yea
HB8(9:46:40 PM): i love tall men. (more ioi's like we need them at this point)
jsmooth (9:46:44 PM): uh oh
jsmooth (9:46:50 PM): and a makeout queen (Me bing playful again)
HB8(9:47:37 PM): .... i am confused
jsmooth (9:47:42 PM): with (Here goes another cocky funny)
jsmooth (9:47:54 PM): okay your left is on ethis side<-------
jsmooth (9:48:00 PM): your right is on this side ------------>
jsmooth (9:48:13 PM): =))
HB8(9:48:14 PM): yessssss
jsmooth (9:48:16 PM): :)
jsmooth (9:48:24 PM): what else
jsmooth (9:49:17 PM): seriously what are you confused about (Being empathetic)
HB8(9:49:21 PM): I dont know.
HB8(9:49:23 PM): It's late
HB8(9:49:25 PM): and im tired
HB8(9:49:29 PM): and i get confused when im tired
jsmooth (9:49:30 PM): you know
jsmooth (9:49:36 PM): don't hold back
HB8(9:49:43 PM): ?
jsmooth (9:49:58 PM): ?
HB8(9:50:01 PM): ...
jsmooth (9:50:05 PM): !
HB8(9:50:08 PM): dont hold back about what
HB8(9:50:10 PM): im so lost
HB8(9:50:11 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:50:19 PM): I don't know you're the one who was gonna ask a question
jsmooth (9:50:29 PM): You're losing me (More A2)
HB8(9:50:33 PM): Rewind.
HB8(9:50:35 PM): Start over.
HB8(9:50:42 PM): So, HI! My name is Caroline. (She's having fun
HB8(9:50:43 PM): lol
jsmooth (9:50:47 PM): LOL
jsmooth (9:50:58 PM): Hi Caroline I'm Jon, it's groundhog day
HB8(9:51:08 PM): I'm 21. I enjoy candle lit dinners, long walks on the beach, and making out.
HB8(9:51:11 PM): Enough said.
jsmooth (9:51:44 PM): I'm 26, I'm 6'2, your fantasy, I make very good candle lit dinner, and always enjoy a good make out I like being cocky
jsmooth (9:51:56 PM): two can play at that game
HB8(9:51:57 PM): oh so you're a cook?
jsmooth (9:52:10 PM): for some people
HB8(9:52:17 PM): Hahaha... explain.
jsmooth (9:52:30 PM): for people I like
HB8(9:52:40 PM): well then...
jsmooth (9:52:43 PM): question how are you about pets
HB8(9:52:47 PM): I have a dog.
HB8(9:52:52 PM): Hold on ill send you a picture.
jsmooth (9:52:59 PM): what other pets do you like
HB8(9:53:02 PM): He stays in SC... my parents fell in love with him and stole him
jsmooth (9:53:09 PM): I see
jsmooth (9:53:17 PM): I love dogs
jsmooth (9:53:22 PM): but I have a cat actually
jsmooth (9:53:29 PM): she's my girl detector I'm serious about this. If my cat hates women they're out of there
jsmooth (9:53:34 PM): if she likes you you're in
jsmooth (9:53:38 PM): but if she doesnt....
HB8(9:53:54 PM): I like cats... can tend to be allergic to some...
HB8(9:53:57 PM): but usually im ok
jsmooth (9:54:04 PM): okay
jsmooth (9:54:06 PM): it'll work
jsmooth (9:54:14 PM): well you go get some sleep, and I have some writing to do
jsmooth (9:54:22 PM): it's getting past your bedtime little missy

In the end I got her on a date and well...she met me alone at my place. We had a huge makeout session and then we met her friends for drinks. It wasn't as big of a deal to meet her friends first as some might have assumed.

Hope it helps.

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