Exactly! In some areas networking sites like Facebook and MySpace work better too than dating sites. It really does take some experimentation. I spent a few months on a site and if it didn't produce results then I would change to a new one.

match.com
chemistry.com
craigslist.com
plentyofish.com
date.com
singlesnet.com
Yahoo Personals
MSN Personals
AOL Personals

are all good sites to check out

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Hey J Smooth. A girl emailed me on POF saying "so whats your story?" I responded back challenging her by saying "First, what's the story with your name?". We talked about our names and then she emailed me with "so are you really a selfish prick or are you trying to scare people away??" because I am using a profile from Style that starts with "I'm a selfish prick". I just want a second opinion on the response I'm thinking of sending. It is, "Yes I'm very selfish. If we were walking on a sidewalk I'd make you walk on the side with the cars. I like having human shields." I also thought of "I'm a very selfish prick like if we were watching a movie I would hog all the popcorn." I thought the popcorn one was illustrating my intent to watch movies with her too soon. If you want to see the convo about our names which is about 3 emails you can read the rest of this post.

She said "so whats your story?" I responded with "First, what's the story with your name?". Her name is a noun that is very common and boring ending with 11. She said, "not much of a story really, 11 is my numerology number what evver that means and ____ was were the most random thing i coukd think of at that moment. I did want my username to have much personal info. your turn" Now I think she meant your turn as in tell me what your story is but I thought she meant the story of my name lol. So I said "Yea I can see the ___ you looked at when you were making your screen name. ____ is a name I like and I didn't want to give my real name and I was 11 when I made this account. Lol it just looked good next to my name." My name consists of a normal name ending with 11 like hers. And that's when she said, "so are you really a selfish prick or are you trying to scare people away??"

Hey God,

I'd go with the second one about the popcorn. I think it displays more personality and the real way you're "selfish" in a way like that and not an "asshole."

HAVE FUN!

Jon

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hey, I kinda forgot the website of the highsch pua, do you know it??

I'm not sure man. I'm 27 so I don't follow that stuff really. You might want to send "Grape" a message. He's a friend of mine and would have it.

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Thanks that's a good point. I sent that to her and I got a good response. She said, "lol its a good thing I dont enjoy popcorn very much." and then I sent, "Aww that's too bad. Say, what fingers do you wear your rings on?" It's a cold reading routine I learned from Style.

Awesome! Good Luck.

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hows that one go??

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the-ring-finger-routine-vt35062.html?highlight=ring

I found this in the "Routine" section. This is how I remember it goes. There are different variations but the main part of it stays the same.

Next Question Please.

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so i havent really been trying to game online much lately or IRL lately, you can refer to my most recent post for an explanation (its-been-a-while-everybody-but-i-need-y ... highlight=) its-been-a-while-everybody-but-i-need-y ... highlight= , but this girl added me on myspace and i accepted her yesterday shes maybe ehh a 6 MAYBE if that haha, but i asked her why she added me (just straight up no C&F way or anything just blunt as hell, she messaged me ( i commented her) sayin "i just thought you were really cute."

lol! i cant remember what i used to say to lines such as these but what would you say JSMooth?

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Well, if we already have some value in her eyes there is no real need to play this too cocky funny because a 6 or even a 7 isn't going to need that much push pull. A little is always great but too much and we come off as being "arrogant." My response would be pretty average in a case like this.

"Thanks. I accept all compliments from attractive women. By the way tha reminds me of the time....(Insert DHV Story/Routine/whatever)"

That would be my answer.

Thanks for the rep points SX.

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ok i am hooking girls but closing is jyst not working for me.
here is what happened throughout the convo. I tried to summarise it.
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From: ~Lily~ I miss bein his flor hermosa - Date: Jan 20, 2009 2:04 AM

idk bcuz ill say 176,699,654.9
but thats not true:)
i give an 9, since i hav a tendentcy 2 by bite delicate things:)
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From: keith - Date: Jan 20, 2009 1:57 AM

lol i can relate. but gtta agree, there is nothing better than missionary. lets see, on a scale of 1 to 10 how gd are u
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From: keith - Date: Jan 20, 2009 1:32 AM ----------------- Original Message ----------------- ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: keith - Date: Jan 19, 2009 9:58 PM ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ~Lily~God Help Me - Date: Jan 19, 2009 9:25 PM
3 and 10??
and no,
i am a female.
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From: keith - Date: Jan 19, 2009 7:24 PM
i am ready. your turn.
Guess.
bt if u are a guy i am so outa here.
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From: ~Lily~God Help Me - Date: Jan 19, 2009 7:05 PM
deal
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From: ~Lily~I swear!!!!! - Date: Jan 19, 2009 8:58 AM
tell me wat the game
is and we'll c how much i can handle
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From: keith - Date: Jan 19, 2009 11:07 AM
haha. cool. wanna play a game...if u cn handle it that is.
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From: ~Lily~I swear!!!!! - Date: Jan 18, 2009 7:36 PM
not very lol
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From: keith - Date: Jan 18, 2009 7:33 PM
oww. that kind of a guy. he is probably not himself its the alcohol talking. but then again he does give in.
anyway, how gd are you in boxing? i had to learn for mixed martial arts. using only arms kind of feels weird sometimes.
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From: ~Lily~I told you so ♥ - Date: Jan 18, 2009 4:20 PM
when hes drunk he sucks ass
sober hes pretty good.
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From: keith - Date: Jan 18, 2009 4:16 PM
Is he the one who thought boxing?? common. i am sure he is not that bad, is he?
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From: ~Lily~I told you so ♥ - Date: Jan 18, 2009 4:00 PM
thank u
and lol of course not, thats my uncle when hes drunk
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From: ~Lily~I told you so ♥ - Date: Jan 18, 2009 1:40 PM
babe im real
i just dont care wat u think
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From: keith - Date: Jan 18, 2009 12:28 PM
hun.., thats hillarious...i guess.
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From: ~Lily~I told you so ♥ - Date: Jan 17, 2009 2:43 PM
idfc
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From: keith - Date: Jan 16, 2009 8:02 PM
haha, common. what i mean was, u cannot be that good at poker.poker is for nerds. but we have to play sometime. one to show u how to really play poker and 2, so i can kick your ass because i know that you are too sweet and innocent to put up a fight.
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I'm going to chop this up too in the interest of getting to the point here. I know this is abbreviated so I have to make some assumptions based on what you posted. You have gotten her to talk to us which is great. She's opening up some which is good too. Finally, you are being cocky funny to a degree but that in itself does not build attraction no more in person than it does online.

You have not really done anything to build solid attraction. You've quoted routines and been cocky funny and that in itself doesn't build attraction completely. Sure push/pull tactics that you were using helps with your responses. But you still need to Demonstrate Higher Value (DHV) with stories as well. You can even turn off the whole cocky funny thing at this point. It's loosing it's meaning.

Kind of like cussing all the time. IF every other word out of my mouth is "Fuck" after a while of listening to that it doesn't hold the meaning it use to. Now if you're walking down the street and some 70 year old lady with white hair says it you almost do a double take to hear her say that. Same thing with your use of cocky funny type messages. Just pepper them in here and there next time.

Next thing on the list. We don't have enough comfort established for her to exchange phone numbers with you. The phone close you used was creative, but it didn't work. She might think you're an okay fun guy that is cocky. But she might like a lot of guys like that. She doesn't know enough about "you" to be comfortable talking to you on the phone yet even if she has a phone.

She needs to know things about you that she can identify with and vice versa. There has to be a sharing of information that goes back and forth. Get her to tell you stories about growing up or whatever. Find things in those stories and ground yourself in her reality.

Now we have the objections of no phone, and a boyfriend to deal with. To be honest it'd be easier to move on to something else. But we can still go back and flip those attraction switches and build genuine comfort with her. We might even try for an Instant Messenger address after some more comfort is established and then building back up to a phone #.

Hope this helps get you on track man.

Jon

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i see what you are trying to say. that is so true. the more we get to know about each other.., the more comfortable she is going to be around me. right. i get it. being cockeye funny all the time is disadvantages i see. i dint get the whole build solid attraction part cos i was doing everything i thought i needed to attract...but that is just the first step now that i think about it. so in order to achive solid attraction and comfort, i need to get into her reality and get to know her better!! i just started doing that. will have to see where i go. Tks man. u got me back on track.

Great

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