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Hey dude, i though i would ask for some tips as im a complete newbie and you seem to have some experiance. well my past actions with this girl have been quite afc'ish but not overly bad i havn't been needy or anything.

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but i want to try and do this properly from this point on, how can i continue? i havn't txt her back or phoned her yet.
Thanks for posting on this thread, however, this question isn't related to the online dating topic. Also, it appears you have some good answers from other memberson your thread.

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Dear Mr. J,

I would like to thank you for answering my post from earlier on this thread. I have another online question.

Well, if you have built attraction and some comfort, do you integrate in your sexual frame online around A3 as you call it or do you wait to play off your sexual frame in person, IF you ever get to meet them that is? Because, you would want to give the other person just a small taste of your sexual frame just so that they know it is there, right? Or no?

And, if not careful, you could be showing the other person that is what you are 'just' looking for, correct?

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Yo, J i got a convo for you to say, i think im doing well but im trying escalate... what do you think I should do after you read this?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:27 AM


Ive met alot of Kentucky girls and you pretty much are right about the personality thing, most are fiesty, but my quote for you is,

"WHAT do you have for you other than your good looks? because there is alot of pretty girl around here. What makes you any diffrent from them?


Juice

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB8
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:35 AM


If you can't already tell what separates me from the rest, then I shouldn't have to point it out.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:39 AM


Lets see you

-Fiesty
- and Strong

My condolences on losing your mother, I admire strength in a woman. While I still dont know you from a hole in the wall, 2/3 aint bad? Whats going on with you this early in the morning.. I guess we early birds get the worm right lol

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB8
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:50 AM


Couldn't have said it better! There is something to be said about actually rolling out of bed and getting moving.

I appreciate the compliments.

M
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:52 AM


Trying to get out the habit of sleeping in dont you agree that real men dont sleep past 7am, I sleep for about 5-6hrs get up and start my routine. So what school you go to?
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Then she said

"Whatever works for you! I am currently on hiatus from school... Back at it at USF this summer.

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Yo, J i got a convo for you to say, i think im doing well but im trying escalate... what do you think I should do after you read this?

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From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:27 AM


Ive met alot of Kentucky girls and you pretty much are right about the personality thing, most are fiesty, but my quote for you is,

"WHAT do you have for you other than your good looks? because there is alot of pretty girl around here. What makes you any diffrent from them?


Juice

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB8
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:35 AM


If you can't already tell what separates me from the rest, then I shouldn't have to point it out.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:39 AM


Lets see you

-Fiesty
- and Strong

My condolences on losing your mother, I admire strength in a woman. While I still dont know you from a hole in the wall, 2/3 aint bad? Whats going on with you this early in the morning.. I guess we early birds get the worm right lol

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB8
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:50 AM


Couldn't have said it better! There is something to be said about actually rolling out of bed and getting moving.

I appreciate the compliments.

M
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Too Hot for Tv
Date: Mar 17, 2008 6:52 AM


Trying to get out the habit of sleeping in dont you agree that real men dont sleep past 7am, I sleep for about 5-6hrs get up and start my routine. So what school you go to?
---------------
Then she said

"Whatever works for you! I am currently on hiatus from school... Back at it at USF this summer.
First of all I want to point out that you are doing well, and she is comfortable with you based on her responses. First off, I want to give you a response, but I'm not sure how you want to escalate. Do you want her IM, Phone #, or go for a date? In my suggestion would be to go for the IM, and then from there to the phone. I think asking for a date might be a bit soon.

You're going to like this.

"Hiatus, oh I know this word, it means when you sit on your butt all day watching soap operas right? :) Well whatever works for you! The time delay here is killing me, what's your instant messenger screen name, so I can make you laugh in real time."

OR

"Hiatus, oh I know this word, it means when you sit on your butt all day watching soap operas right? :) Well whatever works for you! All this typing back and forth is killing my carpel tunnel. :P What's your number so I can continue this conversation with you?"

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At least she acts like one. I really wanna get this girl but her bitch shield is freaking high it seems! Here is her response to me qualifying her with the 3 qualities question:

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#1 I am constantly doing something fun

#2 I am pee-your pants funny

#3 I have a mind of my own

#4 Nobody can get me to do something i dont want to do and i never backdown on what i believe in.

#5 I am honest and will always speak my mind and tell it how it is...i have standards and expectations and i dont compramise them

#6 Frankly i dont care if you need other reasons on why to talk to me for if you cant figure out from my profile that i am a bomb ass chick then i think you need to re-read it and guess again

"


I am totally clueless and not sure what to say back to her...."let's start over" ? lol i don't wanna do that..sounds kinda AFC. Would appreciate any advice you have for me, J-SMOOOOOOTH. =)


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At least she acts like one. I really wanna get this girl but her bitch shield is freaking high it seems! Here is her response to me qualifying her with the 3 qualities question:

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#1 I am constantly doing something fun

#2 I am pee-your pants funny

#3 I have a mind of my own

#4 Nobody can get me to do something i dont want to do and i never backdown on what i believe in.

#5 I am honest and will always speak my mind and tell it how it is...i have standards and expectations and i dont compramise them

#6 Frankly i dont care if you need other reasons on why to talk to me for if you cant figure out from my profile that i am a bomb ass chick then i think you need to re-read it and guess again

"


I am totally clueless and not sure what to say back to her...."let's start over" ? lol i don't wanna do that..sounds kinda AFC. Would appreciate any advice you have for me, J-SMOOOOOOTH. =)
J, first, sorry to hijack your thread.

Dude . . . are you blind??? Bitch shield? "Let's start over"??? Fuck that. She just complied!!! And then some!


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At least she acts like one. I really wanna get this girl but her bitch shield is freaking high it seems! Here is her response to me qualifying her with the 3 qualities question:

"
#1 I am constantly doing something fun

#2 I am pee-your pants funny

#3 I have a mind of my own

#4 Nobody can get me to do something i dont want to do and i never backdown on what i believe in.

#5 I am honest and will always speak my mind and tell it how it is...i have standards and expectations and i dont compramise them

#6 Frankly i dont care if you need other reasons on why to talk to me for if you cant figure out from my profile that i am a bomb ass chick then i think you need to re-read it and guess again

"


I am totally clueless and not sure what to say back to her...."let's start over" ? lol i don't wanna do that..sounds kinda AFC. Would appreciate any advice you have for me, J-SMOOOOOOTH. =)
Well like Tripp said we got her jumping through our hoop here. She totally just qualified to us. Granted she's got a strong frame and good confidence. I don't know about you but I like confident women.

I would say, "Wow, and I thought you were like the rest of the girls on here. Glad to see you have standards, because I certainly have mine. Let's continue this conversation on messenger. How do I reach you?"

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At least she acts like one. I really wanna get this girl but her bitch shield is freaking high it seems! Here is her response to me qualifying her with the 3 qualities question:

"
#1 I am constantly doing something fun

#2 I am pee-your pants funny

#3 I have a mind of my own

#4 Nobody can get me to do something i dont want to do and i never backdown on what i believe in.

#5 I am honest and will always speak my mind and tell it how it is...i have standards and expectations and i dont compramise them

#6 Frankly i dont care if you need other reasons on why to talk to me for if you cant figure out from my profile that i am a bomb ass chick then i think you need to re-read it and guess again

"


I am totally clueless and not sure what to say back to her...."let's start over" ? lol i don't wanna do that..sounds kinda AFC. Would appreciate any advice you have for me, J-SMOOOOOOTH. =)
Well like Tripp said we got her jumping through our hoop here. She totally just qualified to us. Granted she's got a strong frame and good confidence. I don't know about you but I like confident women.

I would say, "Wow, and I thought you were like the rest of the girls on here. Glad to see you have standards, because I certainly have mine. Let's continue this conversation on messenger. How do I reach you?"

I think I messed up, guys! Cuz this is what I sent to her(borrowed some from the last Jsmooth recommendation):

Now, now, young lady, no need to get all defensive here. =)

I can tell you're a lot like me. You are a no nonsense type of a gal. I'm pretty high maintenance and it looks like you're the same way, too.

Let's start this over. I'm Huey and I like people that tell it how it is.

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Here is her reply. Is it game over or game on? (it seems as if she is applying self-disqualifying) :


Huey....you seem pretty cool and i wasnt trying to be defensive but at the same time it was a pretty lazy question when you have about 99 answers compared to the million i left out on my profile...but its cool. i hope you had a nice day and as far as the high maitenence i doubt it will work out for anyone as close to high maitenence as i am is only going to compete for be spoiled more and not give in just i wouldnt...but you are a nice guy i wasnt trying to say you werent
Adrianne
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This pickup stuff is soooo new to me and kinda glad i'm learning some stuff behind the scenes before I can go out and try this stuff in bars and get shit-tested, etc.

So do you guys think I'm still in the game with her and if so, what should I be saying next? I don't think I should requalify myself....what an endless loop..these games are rediculous! Women in Europe and Asia are not like this....lol


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I think I messed up, guys! Cuz this is what I sent to her(borrowed some from the last Jsmooth recommendation):

Now, now, young lady, no need to get all defensive here. =)

I can tell you're a lot like me. You are a no nonsense type of a gal. I'm pretty high maintenance and it looks like you're the same way, too.

Let's start this over. I'm Huey and I like people that tell it how it is.

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Here is her reply. Is it game over or game on? (it seems as if she is applying self-disqualifying) :


Huey....you seem pretty cool and i wasnt trying to be defensive but at the same time it was a pretty lazy question when you have about 99 answers compared to the million i left out on my profile...but its cool. i hope you had a nice day and as far as the high maitenence i doubt it will work out for anyone as close to high maitenence as i am is only going to compete for be spoiled more and not give in just i wouldnt...but you are a nice guy i wasnt trying to say you werent
Adrianne
*******************************************************

This pickup stuff is soooo new to me and kinda glad i'm learning some stuff behind the scenes before I can go out and try this stuff in bars and get shit-tested, etc.

So do you guys think I'm still in the game with her and if so, what should I be saying next? I don't think I should requalify myself....what an endless loop..these games are rediculous! Women in Europe and Asia are not like this....lol
Actually you have her right where you want her, we've broken through the shield. She knows your high maintenance and she is as well. She's going to play fight with you for attention, and she realizing she's playing the game. Like when she said, "but you are a nice guy i wasnt trying to say you werent" she totally backing off and allowing you in to her life.

You have your foot in the door, now you just have to talk your way inside and into her life. :) I agree there is no reason to qualify yourself anymore. This is a good point to tell her a DHV story to start building your value.

I'd say something like, "Speaking of High Maintenance that reminds me of a time when...." Then I'd bridge into my DHV story showing preselection, leader of men, protector of loved ones, non-neediness, or willingness to show emotion attraction switches.

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I think I messed up, guys! Cuz this is what I sent to her(borrowed some from the last Jsmooth recommendation):

Now, now, young lady, no need to get all defensive here. =)

I can tell you're a lot like me. You are a no nonsense type of a gal. I'm pretty high maintenance and it looks like you're the same way, too.

Let's start this over. I'm Huey and I like people that tell it how it is.

******************************************************

Here is her reply. Is it game over or game on? (it seems as if she is applying self-disqualifying) :


Huey....you seem pretty cool and i wasnt trying to be defensive but at the same time it was a pretty lazy question when you have about 99 answers compared to the million i left out on my profile...but its cool. i hope you had a nice day and as far as the high maitenence i doubt it will work out for anyone as close to high maitenence as i am is only going to compete for be spoiled more and not give in just i wouldnt...but you are a nice guy i wasnt trying to say you werent
Adrianne
*******************************************************

This pickup stuff is soooo new to me and kinda glad i'm learning some stuff behind the scenes before I can go out and try this stuff in bars and get shit-tested, etc.

So do you guys think I'm still in the game with her and if so, what should I be saying next? I don't think I should requalify myself....what an endless loop..these games are rediculous! Women in Europe and Asia are not like this....lol
Actually you have her right where you want her, we've broken through the shield. She knows your high maintenance and she is as well. She's going to play fight with you for attention, and she realizing she's playing the game. Like when she said, "but you are a nice guy i wasnt trying to say you werent" she totally backing off and allowing you in to her life.

You have your foot in the door, now you just have to talk your way inside and into her life. :) I agree there is no reason to qualify yourself anymore. This is a good point to tell her a DHV story to start building your value.

I'd say something like, "Speaking of High Maintenance that reminds me of a time when...." Then I'd bridge into my DHV story showing preselection, leader of men, protector of loved ones, non-neediness, or willingness to show emotion attraction switches.
Thanks, J-Smooooth! You are like my Obi-Wan Kenobi. I am like the Yellow Jedi that never made it into the series...haha Thanks for the reassurance...now I just have to find a DHV story hahaha..I've never ever told one before...I don't even know how to construct one. Are there templates already for this somewhere online? I don't feel like typing her a NOVEL since we've only been sending short messages back and forth.


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Dear JSmooth,

Does penis size matter over the internet?

Haha jk :lol:

Ok ok real question... Some sites have special fun features like "pokes" on facebook. What are some examples of other fun features on other networking and/or dating sites and how can you use these features to your advantage (including pokes on facebook)?


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Dear JSmooth,

Does penis size matter over the internet?

Haha jk :lol:

Ok ok real question... Some sites have special fun features like "pokes" on facebook. What are some examples of other fun features on other networking and/or dating sites and how can you use these features to your advantage (including pokes on facebook)?
LMAO! A lot of sites have stuff like poke, wing, or quick reply features. Personally I don't like using them. Women of beauty get lots of pokes, winks, etc. from guys simply because it doesn't require any effort for someone to do that. I typically stick to sending actually messages that I wrote. Women receive less of these and I can convey my personality instead of being some guy that just sent her a poke like every other guy.

Okay so you send a wink or a poke to break the ice. If she doesn't respond you can do nothing or send a message. If she pokes or winks back you can do nothing or send a message. So why not just send a message up front?

Don't get me wrong I know it works as a way to break the ice for some people, in my experience I just like cutting out a step. :)

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J-Smooth, can you help me get started in the right direction for a DHV with the high-maintenance thing? I've looked all over the net..can't seem to find anything related.


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Dear Mr. J,

I would like to thank you for answering my post from earlier on this thread. I have another online question.

Well, if you have built attraction and some comfort, do you integrate in your sexual frame online around A3 as you call it or do you wait to play off your sexual frame in person, IF you ever get to meet them that is? Because, you would want to give the other person just a small taste of your sexual frame just so that they know it is there, right? Or no?

And, if not careful, you could be showing the other person that is what you are 'just' looking for, correct?
I agree you should start to show you sexual frame up front but just a glimpse. Later on in comfort you can show it a little more. Just let it "slip" out every now and then. Then do what you want when you're in front of each other.

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J-Smooth, can you help me get started in the right direction for a DHV with the high-maintenance thing? I've looked all over the net..can't seem to find anything related.
Creating a DHV story is not that difficult. You need to take a story from your life and see how it flips the attraction switches for women. The story should be short and not come off as bragging. Again, those attraction switches are...

1.) Pre-Selection by Women - meaning a story that shows you have past girlfriends or women that are close to you and trust you. Best if you can do this with a lady on your arm but stories work too.

2.) Leader of Men- a story showing that you are the leader of your social circle or peer group.

3.) Protector of Loved Ones- pretty self explanatory shows that you are protective over your friends and family. Usually comes out something along the lines of..."So, if my sister needed anything I'd hop in my car and drive 10 hrs for her, and my friends would understand because we support each other like that."

4.) Non-Neediness- just demonstrates that you are needy towards woman. I have a story about turning girls down for drinks and stuff like that. Just shows that you are use to women being around and they don't phase you.

5.) Willingness to Emote or Show Emotion- Just shows that you aren't some robot with no feelings.

You have to create your own story here. I don't know enough about your life experiences to tell you how. These are the topic to center on, now find things in your life that have happened to you, that you can relate one of these things with, without bragging.

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