I like the profile the way you have it setup. A picture of you with a girl would be nice for an extra DHV spike. Although, Bonita's contribution to your profile definitely helps with that aspect.

I like the overall cocky funny tone in your profile that you have. You might want to go back through for some grammer and spelling errors! Still, I think you have a good profile to go with. You haven't done anything that I'd consider bad like talking about religion or politics on your profile, but I know you're too smart for that.

Ideas to consider:

+More photos (More recent ones too)
+Writing a little bit more on the about what you are looking for as far as a girl goes. Keep it short and simple like you've been doing.
+consider rewording "I'm no slut, so don't expect to get any ass on the first date." reword to maybe: I'm not easy, so don't for one second think you are going to get in my pants on the first date.


Lastly, send me your email and I'll send you my online dating blackbook it has all my profile tips.

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Thanks bro!

I was thinking about quoting Mickey Avalon when talking about girls im into.

"I like a girl with caked up makeup.
In the sunshine, smoking cigarettes to pass the time.
Who wakes up to a bottle of wine.
Or the nice dim lights and scratches the blinds.

But i ain't quite found one right yet.
So I step with pep to the park or supermarket it.
Her apartment best be messy.
And Lisa don't mind when i call her Lesley.

She's gotta dress with class.
In Jean Paul Gaultier and an Hermes bag.
And 4 inch tips made of ostrich.
Sharp enough to slit your wrists, her lips spread gossip.
Won't say sorry when she offends.
She comes over to my place in her old man's Benz.
In gold and silver and jewels of all colors.
She doesn't take them off when we're tearing up the covers. "

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZhnjBYxYSc[/youtube]

NOt quite the whole set of lyrics, just like the first part or soo...

CK

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That's a good idea and it's unique compared to what most guys have in their profiles.

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I'll have to play catchup, because you might have mentioned this already in the previous 26 pages....

but for actual dating sites (e.g. not social networking), do you recommend being more up front/aggressive with your intentions? I have tried C&F, and being disinterested but it goes NOwhere!

I know on PoF a lot of these women probably get 10-100 messages a day from losers. I haven't ever seen an "unread - deleted", but often I get the "read" or "read - deleted" and no response. 2 for 10 response ratio probably

Soooooo... I tried adding C&F to overtly sexual humor, which eventually turned into horse references (lol) and I did get a response... and, she was playing along. 1 for 1 on that one... lol

I don't know, seems counterintuitive, but that's how Style said it is...

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I received my best results from starting off with qualification type of questions to use as openers, and then moved into a more upfront/aggressive style.

I might have started off with an opener like "Is there more to you than just your looks?"

Again, just like in person the only goal of the opener is to get her to respond back, period. Once she responds back the hardest part is done for us. However, there aren't many sites in which you'll get much better than 20%-30% response rate on dating sites.

As I mentioned before there are 100 reasons their profile is still up. I know for fact my girlfriend is still on eharmony because she paid for six months or whatever. Then it expired and she didn't bother to completely remove it.

Think of it like this forum. There is thousands of guys registered to the site but probably 20% of them actually post anything with regularity.

Getting back to the topic. After she responds to you then you can go into Mystery's "Beauty is common thing..." to ground the opener, and then switch it to attraction/comfort building material.

I went over the attraction/comfort building phase in a free online workshop I did this summer for another forum. The link to it is www.JSmooth.org/Documents/OnlineWorkshop.wav if you want to listen.

*Warning this file is in .wav format and about 265MB, and I think around an hour long*

You should be able to right click on the link to "Save Target As"

Basically, think of it like building C1 type comfort "Rapport" using stories and some questions, while embedding DHV spikes into what you are saying. At the same time being very upfront with the girl about the type of relationship you want.

To quote a great line from the movie SPY GAME with Robert Redford and Brad Pitt, Roberts character at one point says, "We need twice the sex with half the foreplay." I believe that statement best describes the concept behind combining these steps.

Great questions guys, keep them coming.

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You mean "save link as?" You're an online coach and you're using IE? lol... kidding. Downloading now. You = awesome.

But I must be doing something right.. My messages all get read, they just don't respond. So I'm good at catchy titles! Just need a better hook.

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I use both IE and Firefox actually. I know the majority of people out there use IE7 thus my instructions. Anyways, I am glad you guys like the Online Workshop.

You seem to have it figured out smartass!

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So I met a girl at a street fair and she found me on myspace and I added her as a friend. She sent me a message today saying "hey kid" which I figure is an IOI because I havent sent her anything. I was wondering what you think is the next step. Also what and when should I message her.

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Okay so: which is better myspace via pm or msn msngr?

I have a girl which I really dont want to get burned with but she is so fucking hot! So I have her myspace and I guess Ill give it a shot. But she knows everybody I go out with and all my friends so i really must not screw up. Its a fucking web of people. My friend offerd me her msn, or should I stick with Myspace?

Would you take a shot with a girl that your friends know and respect?

You need to start messaging her obviously. In your messages you are trying to build comfort and rapport with her while inserting attraction spikes. You see online we don't have as much time like we do in field, plus we have to type everything. So, you are building comfort and rapport so you can get her phone # later, and inserting DHV attraction spikes where you can in the conversations you have.

So message her for a while doing this. When you feel she's getting pretty comfortable ask her for her phone# or Instant Messanger so you can talk in more real time. Again, you build more comfort/attraction until you have enough to move to the next step of setting up a Day 2.

You already have some attraction built already obviously or she wouldn't have contacted you. You won't have to work as hard at this process as someone starting with a girl who doesn't know him. I'd say after a few messages you can say something like, "I get tired of all this back and forth messaging. Give me your number so we can talk like adults."

Hope it helps man. Any extra questions post them or PM me

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MSN Messenger is so much better! When on myspace you have this back and forth like you do with email. It's not real time and you have to wait for replies. On Messenger it's second best to the phone and you can convey your personality so much better. Plus you're one step away from getting her phone #.

Would I take a shot with a girl that my friends know and respect? Sure, I would absolutely take a shot at it. You have to realize that you are going to have to be careful with "How you leave her" if things don't work out.

IE. You don't want to get caught cheating or gaming other women. You're going to have to play this pretty straight up and making sure you keep your focus on this girl for a bit. I know that technically makes it "One Itis" but you don't wan to ruin your social circle either.

Good luck to you with her!

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One more I forgot (sorry):

Being a snowboarder from slovenia I often go to resorts in austria.
I met this local on the lifts and did my job good although I was 16 and she was 22. I always was into older girls. Two months ago I met her by her car before I went on the bus with some friends and they said that she isnt that hot. I wanted to prove them wrong so I took out my videocamera and zoomed in on her and the car, but just as the bus drove by she looked up and saw me.


At first I thought she didnt see me because we were sending myspace pms. Then I asked her for her msn and she gave it but never singed in. I wrote her 2 times on myspace she didnt reply.

Im not that into her but I do want to clear my name and not be the stalker that films people. Oh and last night I noticed that she is still my friend on myspace but I can only view the tagged photos.

Im pissed!!!

So what should I write to close this whole shit down?

I messaged you yestrday and you mentioned that I should through in some DHV spikes. I thought about it all day and I cant think of something good myspace message wise. I still have all day today but I thought maybe you could help me out.

Stallian

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Dude, I am not sure what to tell you about how to clear your name with her and what to say. This really doesn't fall into building attraction or comfort this comes into saving your butt from embarrassment.

Honestly can saying anything really help all that much or is it going to make you look worse. I mean the more you try to justify what you were doing the weirder it's going to get.

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It doesn't matter if it's anything good myspace message wise. Use any short story you have. When in doubt you can talk about whatever subject you like just insert DHV spikes.

Stallian, what are the main attraction or DHV spikes?

1. Pre-Selection
2. Leader of Men
3. Protector of Loved Ones
4. Willingness to Emote
5. Non-Neediness

So at anytime during normal conversation you can demonstrate these or mention these casually do it. How can you do this... Casually mention a past girlfriend was similar, how you helped out a friend, you'd do anything for a family member, etc. Now tell any interesting story about yourself and insert a few spikes. It doesn't have to be halarious or pulizer prize material just interesting to read about. Keep it down to a few paragraphs.

Hope that this helps futher explain.

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