Hello mate.

Someone else has probably asked this question already and I apologise if this is the case but I recently set up an account on facebook and I made it my mission to add as many HB's as I could and also some fellow PUA's. I've got a little conversation going with a few of the less attractive girls and a few of the professional glamour models. I start out by negging them or assuming something which clearly isn't true so that they correct me and then from there I try to say something cocky funny and then after I establish a bit of comfort I play a couple of games with them like the cube etc.

From here I usually lose their interest because the gimmick has gotten old. SO my question is

What is a great way to open up and get a reply?
What is the next step?
and
If they are online and available for instant chat do you have any hints?

I know that's 3 questions but I'd really appreciate it mate

Thanks in advance

Midaz

Midaz,

Simply because I don't do as much Facebook game, let me refer you to my good friend Whoopie. He is a lot better at that networking site than I am, and he has some really good routines. You'll benefit a lot from talking to him.

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Hey Jsmooth, I really need some help here cause I'm in uncharted waters with a HB10. After 7 months of rejection, failure, and working on my game I finally have a genuine hb10 interested in ME. I've never gotten this far with a girl this beautiful and most definitely sought after by other guys. I won't go into the whole thing but after I played with her for a while and teased her.

She kind of teased back saying that "I say I'm white but I look Persian"

so I responded:LOL I'm not surprised. A lot of people think I look Middle Eastern. I'm mostly European but I also have a decent amount of Amer. Indian in me so maybe the combination gives me that look. That was an excellent observation though judging by my crappy pics.

Then she did a 180 turn! Here is what she said:
hb10:You have a really intense personality. I can't quite tell if you're serious or playing around a little. Do you have a name? I'm (hb's name). You aren't like any other guy on this site and thats a good thing
Then she sends me a friend request and adds;
hb10: By the way, I don't think your pics are crappy. I think they're cute and you have a really nice smile(wink)

I didn't know what to say so I just responded: Hi hb10's name, yes, I do actually have a name. I'm David. I appreciate the friend request and all the sweet things you said. You actually seem like a really nice girl. I have to go but lets talk soon.-Dave

Any advice for where I should take this? Thanks-Lennon

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You certainly have her attention, and she is interested in you for sure. At this point I would get her to join you on instant messenger. We basically, want to get her from messaging, to IM, to the phone, to in person as quickly as we can escalate her comfort level to do this.

I'd send her a message when you have some time to be on messenger, and tell her to meet you on there, and give her your screen name. You can get her on IM banter a bit, and build comfort with her. I'd have a good 30 minutes of conversation, before I'd ask for her number. Make her comfortable so you can get her on the phone. Then as soon as you can a date.

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Well, I really need some advice now on how to go about this J...

We talked on the phone finally on Sunday, first convo was about 15 min...then she suddenly had to go, but she called back and we seem to have alot in common. She tried calling me again at around 2:30 am but I was asleep. She is very goal oriented, college for the last 15 years...she in finishing her Masters now, She is currently is a nurse...very cute too, and then she plans to go for her Doctorate (I have yet to ask in what field, Im trying to avoid that, Im sure she hears it alot.). She makes about double my income and can be abit intimidating especially if she is looking to be wined and dined. Her online profile shows she makes at least 75K and she is looking for the same.

She asked when she could see me... I threw out the mall if she wanted to go with me...she doesn't go to the mall because she will start shopping and go on a rampage, also...she said..."What we going to do there, just talk?".( Now that I write this, I should have said something cocky funny I think). She did mention an expensive dress she bought at the mall she's never used...talked about that abit, Then she mentioned that I would see it if I would take her to dinner on Wed. (Is this a hoop?)

Now, I was planning on going to a nice spot here in town, but I also thought that I would throw out the fact that I cant give a lifestyle that I cant afford. I know its more about showing her a good time and I think I can, I just dont want any misunderstandings...when I pick her up, Im sure that she will notice, I dont drive a newer car, but at least its clean.

What do you think? Too soon for date? Should I re-frame and do something different? Should I mention the income part?


Side note...Now I mention this because I feel that Im learning...After the mall suggestion, I said (so AFC) Do you have any ideas? She said "Well, I thought that you would know what to do?" When she said that...I thought...Sh!t, Im blowing it...I need to recover from this. At that moment, I was saved, I had to take another call and that I would call her back. She said, no prob and we hung up. Im sure she wants me to call back with an idea for wednesday night!

Cedius,

You've done a good job to this point building comfort and rapport with her. This is obvious to me because you are now speaking on the phone instead of online. GOOD WORK!!! If she's intiating contact back with you via the phone then that's even better. She's attracted to you, and she feels that she can be part of your life, and she feels that you can be part of her life.

I would not bring up the money issue at all. You two are just dating at the moment, and you aren't getting married tomorrow. It's not as big of a thing as you may think it is. I've dated Nurses, Doctors, Lawyers, Song Writers, and Music Co-Producers. I have a moderate income compared to those people, but it wasn't a big deal.

She may have seen already on your profile you income range. I wouldn't bring this up unless she does. Even so, I completely understand you can't give her a lavish lifestyle. So, plan dates that are things that you are doing already, and bring her into your world! If you can occassionally afford a nice place, cool, but don't go out of your way to do this.

I don't think it's too soon for a date at all. Her asking you, "Well, I thought you would know what to do?" Women expect us to lead the interactions with them. You're the guy in the relationship, you should ideally have Day 1 or Day 2 spots ready to go in your mind. She expects this, which is why she asked you this question.

So make a plan of somewhere fun for you two to go, and get her to join you. Ideally, this should be something that you are planning on doing already. Just get 1 x 1 with her so you can continue this awesome interaction. You're on the right track!

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Great advice...I'll do that. Thank you.

I'm sure we'll do the dinner thing. Anything you do to follow up dinner, a movie kinda sounds boring and there's nothing on a Wed to do around here.

Where can I find some interesting Day 1 and Day 2 ideas and then incorporate them in what we have to do here locally?

She likes to dance, she has a favorite spot (Small bar/club) which Im sure we will check out. Purple hooters are her drink of choice, I offered a few other drinks that she wants to try now, I think I set up a Day 2 with that, Not sure yet. I seem helpless in this area and you have been more than helpful, I just want to do it right. Thank you again.

I'm not sure where you live so it's hard for me to recommend places. When I was out and begining to do this I wasn't sure what to do either. I would call my women friends and ask them for places that were good. I'd also use these as opinion openers from time to time, saying I was new and looking for good hangout spots.

When in doubt I used citysearch.com to find good places to go.

Definately take her out for dancing and drinks since she's into that.

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citysearch.com...I will check that out, thank you.

I live in Fresno, CA. Small town with not much to do.

If you don't mind, I will keep you posted. Thanx again.

Quick question...
Since you have an idea of the type of person Im dealing with, she has a busy schedule...work and she teaches, I just found this out.

Her talk time on the phone is limited to certain times of the day. I texted her when I could talk to her, and about 2-3 hours later she responded "Now". I called about 10 min later and she was eating, I told her that I can call back, (I dont like to be bothered when I eat), she then said...call me back around 3:00. is that ok? I said sure. (Was that AFC-ish of me). I found a place to take her and her expensive dress so I dont want to seem like Im not interested, but I dont want to seem needy either.

Should I ask her to find time to talk, tell her that I am busy too or go along with her on when she can talk?

I hope this reaches you in time. I'm at work, so I couldn't reply right away. I would call her tomorrow at a time you now know she's available. That way we aren't on her frame, but we're also leading the interaction.

When you call her, even if she's busy, I'd insist and say, "I've been pretty busy lately too...this will only take a few minutes...." then go ahead and ask her out.

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Thanks for the reply...I will call her later and hope that she anwsers so I can ask her out...thanks again.

No Problem!

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And the questions continue...at any point, feel free to tell me to figure it out!!! But until then, I will post with hopefully something that another can find useful.

Well, I asked her out, we're going to dinner tonight...I'll let you know how it goes.

But getting to that point, I have some questions...

I called her, she was getting ready to leave to a party at a friends house, so I told her that I would let her go, I wanted to know if she ended up with plans for Wed. At that very moment, she said Hold on...(Call Waiting).

I was on hold for a minute when I began to think...is this a test? I hung up.

I got a txt back asking why did I hang up? I waited about 3 min and called her back...I told her that I had something to do and didnt want to keep her on hold, no biggie. She said Oh, ok then.

I asked her to dinner...I mentioned the expensive dress she bought that she has never used and said" I thought we could take your dress out to dinner tomorrow" (Something like that, cant remember exactly) but she got a laugh out of it and she said sure...She is going to meet me there.

Questions from this are;

1. If on hold with a girl...not just a random piece, but someone you think is worthwhile...how long should one hold. Or should we hang up and have a plausible excuse.

2. This is our first meeting, is it ok to meet there? I offered to pick her up and then mentioned, I could meet her there. My question with this is that I didnt exude the confidence in asking to pick her up...I threw out the option to meet her there out of comfort as we dont know eachother yet right away after asking to pick her up...is that OK.

3. Dinner - 1st date, 2nd date and so on...who should pay...when is ok to split the bill, if she offer's to pay, is this a test to see if I bite. I have no problem paying as that is how I was brought up...but I know, we should be the exception...question is, when do we apply being the exception?

Thank you.

1. I hold on for about a minute before I disconnect and as you did create a plausible excuse. You played that part perfectly in my opinion.

2. There isn't much you can do about it at this point. Personally, being the first time you're going out I would have met her there. I wouldn't offer to pick her up. Think about it, some stranger you barely know you are going to have to trust to be in a car with him. Preserve comfort levels by meeting her the first time.

3. I would try and pick up the check. Like you, that is just the way I was brought up here in the south. I don't see anything AFC about it. If she offers to split it then do it, but otherwise expect to pick up the check.

There is a lot more to worry about than who pays. You have done very well getting her to this point. Now you just have to be the confident cool guy that you are with interesting things to say, that flip her attraction switches.

ENJOY YOUR DATE!!

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