Sorry for the double post but I asked this ^^ a few days ago (on page 86) but did not get a reply. Just wanted to know if you're looking into it or accidentally skipped over it?

PS: Background (incase you forgot). Met girl at work function. Added her on facebook. Messaged her about how her holidays were going. She replied and asked me to pass on a message to boss+asked how i was going. I replied with the above and no response from her yet.

I really don't understand this girl. Any ideas on what her intentions are, and how to proceed from here? What's a good answer to the last post?

Me: I'd remove that pic if I were you.
Her: I guess you can't stop looking at it.
Me: You wish! But a conceited girl is better than one without humor, after all, so congratulations: You've passed the first test!
Her: Remove those pubic hairs from your face, and we'll talk [she's referring to my beard]
Me: Oh, really, trying to turn the conversation sexual already? Jeez, calm down, lady! We'll talk when you can see me as more than a piece of meat.
Her: I liked the guy with humor better than you.
Me: Shame he didn't like you, then. I guess he understood - like me - what you're after.
Her: Lol, you make sarcastic comments, but can't take a joke yourself. Ok, perhaps I went too far. So, shall we start afresh?
Me: So you think the mood got bad?
Her: Well, not really... But your rudeness is on the borderline of what I like What is your major?
Me: This isn't a job interview, is it? Anyway, it's something that demands high intelligence and wisdom, so I guess it's not worth discussing with you
Her: I can see that a very insecure boy is hiding behind your profile. Your rudeness has gone too far. Not exactly the kind I'm attracted to. Goodbye
Me: Shit happens I'll continue to give to people what they demand, even if I may come across as a very insecure boy with pubic hairs in my face when the orders are incorrect. [Her profile says she likes sarcasm and mockery]
Her: That was actually funny. I order a stand-up

Personally if she's not responding its probably for a reason. Either cause she got busy and you didn't follow up. OR because she's not interested that way. Why don't you try to make a decision for yourself and see what happens? Worst thing that happens is you don't get the girl, but then again you didn't have her to begin with.

I don't mind giving advise on here and to help guys out but there are times like this when really it's 50/50 on which way this could go. I will say that I wouldn't try to freeze her out that is a tactic mainly used for Last Minute Resistence not communications. Freezing out as a way to encourage communication almost never works.

Reply to her, pass her message on to the boss, and take a shot!

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She likes you and wants to get to know you. This isn't rocket surgery.... Look at her messages to you. Sure she likes the playful thing and you being cocky to a degree but when she asks you to cut it out and tries to ask you rapport building questions cause she wants to get to know you better, you're a jerk, and keep on busting her balls. She told you your rudeness is borderline, then she told you it had crossed the line. Then you got lucky with your last comment and she liked it.

Basically, lighten up on the cocky funny stuff and let her get to know you, and get to know her. Tell her your major and try to get to know her some.

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Hey JSmooth online is new to me and I need a bit of help on this one.

I met this girl a few weeks ago on the street at night walking alone she was from Finland. Because it was late and I was tired I used the apocalypse opener and her response was "No". I continued the conversation and we got talking. The convo wasn't amazing but she was engaged and somewhat interested from how I read it.

Because I was interstate I decided to get her facebook as she said she was visiting my city soon (Not sure when). That night I sent a message with the friend request saying.

"Hey it was nice meeting you u seem very down to earth chick. When you come to my city i can show you a thing or two and we can hang out just as friends

happy new year!"


Since she already knew my intentions I wanted to play the friend card to build comfort. She accepted my friend request but no response so a week later I sent this.

"I was speaking to a finnish man today and realised i fit the aussie sterotype ughh.."

And still no response after a few days however she hasn't visited my city yet. I've never really understood online gaming where am I at with this girl? And why would she accept but never respond?

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You've tried twce to intiate the conversation with her and she hasn't responded. I'd say you give it one more try and if not then it's definitely over. Sometimes women can't remember where they met guys or not sure so they accept them on Facebook. Anyways, you are doing what you can. Give it a few days and try once more.

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Thanks J. Ive just started getting into online dating and cant seem to get the first message back from any girls I contact whether it be direct or indirect. I consider myself reasonably attractive 5'11 and have even tried some lines on this site that others have had success with.

I know this is a difficult question to answer without knowing all the variables, but what could be the possible reasons? If I met these girls face to face I feel like I could pick them up.

EDIT: I am on this site that only allows you to send premade messages e.g. "I think your hot" on first contact which I think is fucking stupid.. but its the only site that has attractive girls near me.

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Then you are kind of stuck. I would do more research to find another dating site that allows you to be original and send your own messages. There are a lot of variables that could be keeping them from responding. SO many that it'd be hard to list.

It's hard to believe that'd be the ONLY site. What country are you in?

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Australia.

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I'm in Australia also and ptown is probably referring to the Oasis dating site, which is free. It's not that the messages are pre-made, but that to start, you have to first send a 'contact request' before you can send out a normal message. Your contact request comes with a pre-made line from the site. It's then up to a lady you send a request to, to decide if she wants to accept, decline, or just ignore your request. The site doesn't offer the ability to write a subject line with any of your messages, even if your request is accepted.

This set up is a pain, but it's very beneficial to hotter females who are at least an 8. It means you're going to be judged a lot more on your pics and profile. If a female on Oasis has received 300 contact requests in a week as an example, it'd be a hell of a lot easier to go through these 'contact requests', than 300 messages on a site like PoF, or anything similar.

If a female on PoF is at least an 8 and she's put up some good pics, but hasn't put up any messaging filters, to cut down on being message bombared, she could get 300 messages within 1 week. On Oasis she's relieved of the very time consuming hassle of having to read through so many mostly crap messages, so she's likely to go on quality of photos, physical attraction to looks and profile text, to wean guys down.

It sucks, but it means a guy has to focus on having a much more original, much better written profile, which isn't hard, as most of the male profiles on Oasis are extremely lame and bland, plus also have much better pics and a lot more of them that DHV you. Pics that are all of you alone in your house, that are of you shirtless and/or are taken in front of a mirror, won't DHV you. Where it doesn't suck, is unlike other sites, you can have up as many as 35 pics if you want. PoF charge a fee, if you want to have more than 8 pics up on your profile.

Awesome information and advise. Thanks for responding KL70!!!

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Have read MOST of the 80+ pages, J Smooth...but what about us 'older' guys?

Does the online game change for the 35+ crowd? Will C&F have the same effect? Will negs even work at all?

I've been sarging online for 3 weeks now. Have gotten 9 numbers. But with these older women come different issues...They put right in their profiles, 'If you are looking for a hookup, don't bother'...'looking for a quick lay? keep walking!'

So what happens is they claim to be looking for this Fabio, harlequin Romance novel guy - that just doesn't exist. My profile is tailored to accentuate those qualities(within reason)...so I'm not quite sure how to segue from a few questions/comments about personality, into the sexual escalation - without sounding like the type of guy they have already told me they aren't looking for....

I guess my question is: How does the game change, if at all, with older women?

Hey Socratic Methodist,

If you're read most of the pages on here you'd know that I don't advocate C+F and Negs as it is often times misunderstood as you just being an asshole by the girls you are talking to. So I wouldn't advise this for the 35+ crowd either.
First off, you don't sexually escalate online with older women. Occasionally there will be a woman that you can do that with but that is pretty rare. Generally speaking keep to the Golden Rule of online pickup.

1. By escalating rapport move her from online to in person as fast as possible.

Now once you are in person you'll be able to sexually escalate and see how receptive she is to it. Definitely don't try that online as you said it will just look creepy. Just get her comfortable enough with who you are and you as a person to get her on a date with you.

The game really doesn't change "a lot" for older women, however, most of the older women are looking for a relationship not just dating and sex. You are going to have to present "dating and sex" in a relationship pill that she can swallow easily. It's fine to say you are looking for a relationship IF you honestly believe if you met "the one" you'd settle down.

That is basically the context you present it to her. I am looking for a relationship with "The one" and when I know it's her I'm going to settle down but for right now let's just get to know each other kind of thing.

Remember women are out to meet new people and have sex just as much as men want to. Over 35 women are essentially pushing for a relationship more which is understandable, but ultimately they are still going to have to meet a guy and get to know him. Regardless of what they say about "not wanting a hook up" or whatever is completely different from a lot of their actions. Trust me on that one. Hell even my profile says don't contact me if you are after just a one night stand. I do that cause it builds instant rapport with women who don't want that. Which is fine by me cause I can wait til the 2nd or 3rd date. How about you?

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Thanks JS!

I pretty much believe that they should be pulled into real life as quickly as possible, like you alluded to. And for the most part, the older women seem to take to this better. They are SO looking for that 'One', that they are up for anything. And given the higher quality openings, from me, that they are receiving - it just makes things go that much faster...

Have my first date saturday night, then a lunch date on sunday. tried to get one for friday(my birthday) - no takers. And then I have another one next friday night, and one next saturday night...so 9 numbers in 2 weeks(first week was xmas holidays). and have secured 4 dates out of the 9. One of the non dates is moving from florida to massachusetts, and wants to get together after she's settled. Not quite sure how the interim will be handled...but I have my fingers crossed....thoughts? comments?

Hi JS, great thread.

I'm new to this online game as I have just recently divorced. I'm on Badoo which has an encounters section which randomly puts up women in your area that match your criteria for a potential date and asks you would you like to meet them.

So far two women found me in their encounters and I said i'd like to meet them. Cool.
Anyway, both messaged me first. Got a couple of laughs from the first one. She told me she spent her childhood in germany, so I'm going to ask her about that next. The other just sent a Hi and a smiley. Haven't responded yet.

Anyway, I was going through the encounters yesterday and saw a girl I recognise from a while back. She's comes across as cool from her profile too. She's a friend of a friend of an acquaintance if you know what I mean. How do you reckon I go about sending her a message without sounding like a weirdo/stalker?

P.S Cool videos.

Steve.