That's simply not true. I don't feel the need to respond to it. You resorted to an outright lie. There universal traits of attraction. You haven't read the literature if you've come to that conclusion.
Lol, yeh, someone told me that big-boobed, blue-eyed, round-assed girls who lick their lips are attractive, and ever since I've been attracted to that. Get fucking REAL, man!

This shit is deeply embedded into us. Tits = high estrogen and fertile. Ass = high estrogen and fertile. Is it just coincidence that the traits women say they find attractive are the same traits that come about as a result of high testosterone and therefore fertility? Look at Greek statues, look at Nordic mythical characters. All would be considered attractive today. Can't blame MTV there, pal.

Please, PLEASE stop bullshitting these guys into believing they can achieve the near on impossible. It's a horrible fact that your face dictates your dating life, but that's just how it is.

You believe whatever you want to believe man. It's your reality. Not mine. You are actually bullshitting yourself.

No, it's just reality. Period. There's plenty of evidence, but you're desperate not to believe it. Explain why female PUAs learn techniques to go after 'hot' guys. They're not using game to pick up guys with a nice personality lol. We all intuitively know it, just do me a favour pal, stop bullshitting others with your dogma.

I'm not exactly sure I understand this entire topic but it's seems kind of pointless. I'm pretty sure every guy knows that looks do matter. But fortunately for less attractive men there are ways around it! Isn't that the point of this forum? Not to mention that not every guy is trying to pick up a 10. Some guys just want to know how to pick up a woman period. Maybe she is only a 6 but that's what he likes. Personally I would never even consider dating a 10. It's generally too much drama. Go into public and look around. I see very average guys with hot ass women all the time and vice versa. Looks will get you laid easier but clearly women, more so than men, will overlook a guys attractiveness if he has a certain lifestyle, income level, appearance, personality and so on.

From what I can tell. Yeah if you're model material you're going to pull or get attention regardless of almost WHAT you say. Especially in online dating. Think about it as a male, the only reason you even click on a girls profile is if the picture attracts you in the first place, and honestly speaking half the time you still contemplate messaging them regardless of what their profile actually says about them. If it's a REAL turn off then you don't, but more often than not, looks play a major part. If we EVER see a REALLY attractive girl's profile we almost ALWAYS click and we almost ALWAYS want to message them. It's unreasonable to think this doesn't work the same for females

BUT that doesn't mean less attractive men CAN'T pick up attractive women in real life? The psychological aspects of PUA make sense (most of the time?). You can make up for your looks.
As far as online dating goes, same does apply but I guess the dynamic changes and maybe direct attention from females dwindles. Being less attractive IS a hinderance. No arguing that, it's common sense but I don't believe it's a disability?

Op (Original poster) - I completely disagree on your theory that only looks matter. Nice field tests but it fails to answer the questions some users raised. But more than that, I disagree with your claim that Pick-up art is only good for picking girls to bed. You open the chapter on inner-game and that shit is what makes Kings and powerful men. Power is another stuff that wets a womans pant profusely.

I just took picture the other day several girls liked on my facebook created a pof account. It's just a stupid bathroom picture but I look good.

its so weird half ass pof profile one picture barely and info yet girls are sending me messages and I'm getting numbers. As to no luck with a fully filled out okcupid profile with 2-3 pictures.

Doesn't really matter to much what I say either..
Looking good does matter most.

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Actually i vouche for the op ive created accounts that have fake plenty of fish profiles and myspaces and i have to say looks do matter. I myself am an average looking guy half the hot chicks i tried to get with were stuck up or didnt give me time but that was a few years ago now ever since i been online sarging things have change women have gottsn worse the other day i set up. Yet again a fake profile i find it funny that girls tried to talk to that profile. But in this reponse to this thread some say some of those profiles of those women are fake i m going to have to say it is true i have called a couple of those women myself and when i message one of the women you wouldnt believe what she wrote back to me
the point is this bitch right here is a liar and actually has a bf i dont know what was here intentions in creating a pof profile but it must not be good cause shes one of those dumb broads that just wanna go behind her bfs back

A few things.

(1) Looks matter but it does NOT follow from that that a guy who is not good looking cannot succeed. Simple logic.
(2) When you put up a new profile it always gets a ton of attention so all the experiments you guys are doing are stupid and biased.

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Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBVuAGFcGKY

Be who you want to date; if you look like a Ogre, and want a 10 supermodel then you need to make some changes; sorry to say, but society has "rules." If you're not happy with your looks, then do whatever it is you have to do to change it; the confidence you will get from thinking you look better, will make up for what you lack. You'd be surprised how insecure women are about themselves; and how many don't think they're as hot as you think they are. Yes, some women, like men, are just attracted to looks; it's just they way it is. Not all though; I personally know a really hot girl who MARRIED a fat guy with a beard, then when they broke up, got engaged to another skinny guy, with no hair, who was self-described (to her) as insecure. My other friend is 6'1, 285, fat, and hairy; he's pulled women some really hot chicks. He's confident, and doesn't give a shit.

Women think with emotions; if you can spark her emotions, you can spark her interest.

Also, I totally tried this with a girls who's profile I thought was fake; we'll it wasn't fake, and it didn't go over too well. hahaha Oops.