I'm new on this forum, and I am glad to be here. I hope to share and learn with all of you. I will not mess with or trash talk your threads. This is a promise. Do not start petty arguments between peers here. Also, I'm doing this after work, so let me know (through PM) about glaring spelling or grammar errors. I want this thread to be as clear as possible, without being binding. Thank you all.

BASIS OF THIS PARTICULAR THREAD
I used some slightly modified openers from the forum* and riffed from there. I'll stick to one opener tonight and give different conversations for view and comparison. These have been sent to 120 just today on lunch, and reply ratios make this the top copy & paste I've found. This isn't so much here to critique my form (although critique is welcome and encouraged as part of the learning process) as it is for us to view a set as in

TEMPLATE OF EACH CONVERSATION THREAD
A) A standard opener (at most minutely tailored with a name, or something that pops at you from the profile)
B) An authentic, organic, although sometimes uninspired response from the woman
C) A response leading to deeper contact and number close.
D)Drop, or close (could be several messages, this is feel not rules *see below)

RULES:
1) Hear that fear and cowardice? Or that false boasting arrogance that masquerades as manliness or confidence, yet always cuts others down? STOP LISTENING TO IT AND THEM! SHUT THOSE VOICES OUT! None of this is Dogma. Enjoy or stop. Bend, break, and ass fuck what I say if it doesn't work. I don't have sex to see my cum and show it to other guys so we can chat about it, I do it to get off. Realize that about yourself and remember it.

2)Don't become paranoid or depressed. Beware of slipping into the focus and obsession, the paranoia, PUA can breed. HAVE FUN. I'd rather fuck up daily (and I do) then post every text message on this site for "help with this HB+infinity." Fuck ups are not embarrassing, they're learning opportunities. Don't listen to the vitriolic "you're an AFC" some people spew. If you're an AFC it's because we, no I, failed to inform, encourage, coach, and teach my peers. I'm reminded of the words in pinstripe on my Grandfathers old hot-rod:

"MUCHOS HUEVOS!"
-Look it up, friends, and then let's get'em back.

* Gratitude and respect to all who unselfishly share their work. I DO NOT claim authorship of openers. I did modify each to the person, vibe, and situation. The structure stayed the same. I do, however, still believe that personalization is the key to any opener. Style, voice, tone, and diction can make the difference, as with any piece of writing since junior fucking high. I do not believe this can be disputed. Make it your own. If you have questions, PM me.

Having issues copying and pasting from okcupid. If anyone knows a better way, I'm all ears and two thumbs up.

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After a rigorously brief overview of your profile, I wanted to let you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories: your hair, how much time you spent on your hair, the time I ran over your dog (oops!), the hair coloring, the clogged bathtub…what? No I didn’t say anything about your dog... you will always have a special place in my heart.
Your ex-hubby,
xxxx

PS: You can keep the other dog. But I’m taking the Chanukah ficus.
19% Enemy86% Friend63% MatchSent to xxxxx
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Jun 6, 2013 – 8:21pm
Oh hubby,
Divorced already? I don't understand I thought you were so happy. The dog is fine; I told you not to worry that he'd just have a limp the rest of his life. I never really wanted the ficus so you can take it if you insist.

I wish we could've tried harder. I'll miss you. :'(

xxxxxSent from the OkCupid app
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Jun 6, 2013 – 9:31pm
I thought I did try, no one else made a little doggy splint!

... Screw it! Put that ficus down, woman! I'm staying! We're going to.... No, that's to close... Ehhh, this time of year?... That's it, grab your randomly owned princess ball gown, we're going to Disneyworld! or at least six flags…
I can’t believe you cancelled the house phone, give me your cell so we can get this planned.

• Jun 6, 2013 – 9:45pm
That was quicker than I thought hubby Practice much...
Xxxxxxxxx
P.S. You're paying for the mouse ears!

xxxxxSent from the OkCupid app

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After a rigorously brief overview of your profile, I wanted to let you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories the hair, the different colors of hair, the time I ran over your dog (oops!)... you will always have a special place in my heart.
Your ex-hubby,
xxx

PS: You can keep the other dog. But I’m taking the Chanukah ficus.
32% Enemy32% Friend61% MatchSent to dmp714
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Jun 6, 2013 – 5:34pm
Well I'm taking the wine collection
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Jun 6, 2013 – 8:16pm
You mean what I call the "she buys these but doesn't drink anything but oaked up chardonnay with her friends" collection? It's actually been renamed the "Wills vast collection 18th century schooners in Bordeaux bottles" collection. I had to do something when you made me quit men's softball, fantasy football, and fantasy baseball...Even fantasy fútbol, which, I know now, is not the same thing.

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Jun 6, 2013 – 8:30pm
Typical… how am I ever supposed to get through to a brute like you?
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Jun 6, 2013 – 9:12pm
This is the part where I say “by phone” and you reply….
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Jun 6, 2013 – 9:40pm
Buy one then? Ohh you mean xxxx
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This is where I'll put one note as to what WORKS FOR ME, not for every swinging dick with palm callouses (not a low blow gentleman, I mean all of us, you ever see Schwarzenegger's palms?)

I call. I call nearly immediately. Why? Cause I'm a man, and an impatient one, so I'll call when I please. Most men wait, so that might be one reason I don't. I don't act like it doesn't matter, I did it over and over, until it didn't matter. I get a number online, I call, not text it. They're usually surprised and I might just say "I'm not one of those guys who doesn't call, are you going to be one of those girls that doesn't answer?" They usually giggle and like it, they say it's gentlemanly and different, I've literally gotten thanked. And if not? Well that hasn't happened to me yet.

But then again I have a job that's pretty "masculine" that women like, (not that I'm Rambo, but a lot of women think in hero archetypes) so when I show an open side, it helps me, never hurts me. If your vibe is different, don't sweat it, just try different shit until you're getting handy's. No! handy's from Mama don't count... NO!! Especially not from my Mama!

Think about it this way, some women are an open set for me no matter what. But you scrawny dude. You boy genius. You whatever weird shit you are. I have news for you: Those sexy ass faux-punk emo hipster gamer "I have a Tot Topic shoved in a Spencers in my room" nipple pierced sexy ass tattooed women? You will get them every day quicker than I will. Picture me as the jock in high school. Now kick me in the face and go get your bisexual gamer pink haired hottie out of here! And know I'm envying you.

And remember one more point: fuck the rules. I'm talking easy women, the ones you find you're aligned to just by opening up yourself, not really changing or gaming anything. Can I get hipsters, yeah. Can you get southern belles, yeah. But I'm referring to where we feel at home. You find friends, you find women, but it all happens while you find yourself.

We are in a post peacock era gentleman. The groundwork and camps and books, the knowledge, is being disseminated. Peacock by your assurance in yourself. Workout, groom, read, do new things, but never for someone else. Never to impress someone. Because you want to. Honesty is scary. It hurts. In time I will tell you more of my story, about brutal pain and breakdown. But this is what I've learned.

Alright, one more tonight

Alright, OkCupid says 502: gateway error. I know dick about computers. In preparation for my first thread I sent 140 messages out today. Copy and paste with minor revisions, because I still live a fucking life. All but 10 messages have been read, and right now I count 60 responses, not including ones I deleted because they were boring, whiny, or just dumb. If anyone knows how I can archive my OkCupid conversations without revealing identities let me know. I will SPAM or call anyone who can help. Send me a PM.

Alright, I'm being honest and open. Some messages will show me getting dropped, some will go great and then I'll drop them, some will prove to be liars after a googleimages search(gold mine for finding your girls Facebook, i.e. hot dating site pics when Facebook tells another truth), and some will go no where. I'm experimenting, trying, but never hurting.

Come at me saying "Haha, you suck bro" and I'll say... You guessed it: NOTHING.

Critiques, sharing, learning, coaching, teaching. That's what I'm here to foster. I'm not here to prove myself; I'm here to share my work. My workday gaming. This is all an SAT question my friends "Online game:real game" as "masturbation:sex". Not a direct correlation, but if you've been reading this thread you'll get what I mean. I got a better one for you: It's the minor leagues, and it doesn't compare to the Big Show, Nuke.

But remember:

In the end it's about digits, the dates, or the drop. Don't fool yourself into SIMS sex. YES! YOU! The one with tissue stuck to the roller ball mouse connected to the gaming system showing Jenna Jameson's holographic exports. You deserve better. Go interact. If you're scared, pm me. I've been there and worst. Trust me. I'm here to help.

Go watch Swingers, drink a beer (eww! but the books tell us not to!!!), and be organic. Let's Enjoy our time.