Hey guys

First post here. I'm trying hard with a 10 (normally an 8 guy haha) and getting places, but don't know where to take it from here. I'm pretty impressed with myself to take it this far:

Me
I saw you checked by my profile – it's okay you don't have to be shy, I don't bite.

Your favourite things are not really your favourite things — this is all an elaborate piece of contemporary art on gender norms and the male fantasy, right?

Her
Haha! Thank you for your concern regarding my shyness...

No, they aren't my favourite things - worrying how many men on here write to me thinking they are! Not an elaborate art piece - just a joke

Me
Ah it's okay, nice to see I could help

Well I fell into the trap straight away. I was like WOW THIS GIRL IS AWESOME. Now I've read your profile properly I find you're just a boring artist. What do you paint/sculpt/draw?

Her
Haha! Hey now - I am not boring! Ironically my art is actually focused on feminism at the moment, hadn't really considered involving a dating profile... Yet... Truly inspirational you are!

Me
I'm soo gonna see dating profiles qua portraits turn up at some feminist exhibition at Whitechapel. Anyway, bad artists copy, good artists steal, right?

I'm XXX btw

Her

I'm XXX

Quoting Picasso to a girl who appreciates art - smooth haha! I don't think any of my work will be turning up in the Whitechapel any time soon, so you've got a bit of a wait before you see that!



I need to step things up and move them forward. Not sure how... Is it too early to go for a number close?

I'll start here....
LOL do you REALLY think you are going to come across a genuine 10 on a dating website?

If a girl is actually on a dating website... She probably has a legitimate reason for it... 1. No other guys are interested in her. 2. She is really nothing special. 3. She's actually a 60 year old man hoping to score some pictures of some young dick...

And if you still want to pursue her phone number (which is useless unless you have something that the two of you can do together... giving her a REASON to give you her number over the 5000 other guys on that website that ask her for it.) You might as well be straight up and honest with her if you are going to look for girls on a dating website. Tell her what you are looking for and see if she is interested in the same things. The fact that you are ONLINE looking for a date, clearly shows your intentions... There is no reason to pussy foot around what you are actually trying to do. Otherwise... You will just make her laugh for a few minutes and then she is onto the next shiny thing that will entertain her simple mind.

If you want quality vag, you have to go out into the wild and hunt for it.

Aren't people on dating sites looking for love? Or does that suggestion make a naive, romantic fool?
Anyway, I agree with the suggestion of directness. It should not be surprising that moving things forward requires being forward. Suggestion: 'I'm not one for waiting around, you'll just have to show me in person'.

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One of the most useful things you will ever learn about body language.

Love through a computer doesn't make sense to me. And if you are in a location where you can't go out and interact with new people to look for a real relationship... Then move! I can't feel bad for some one who says there aren't any girls in his town for him to interact with.

That is like me empathizing for someone who can't find a job and trying to raise 6 kids but they live in Flint, Michigan... Well... Hate to break it to you, but your first problem is that you live in fucking Flint, Michigan.

Unless you create a scenario for yourself that women can chase you... they never will. And don't expect them to be chasing after you cause of a POF.com profile.

Perhaps not. But if you ask me, looking for love with random bar girls doesn't make much sense either. Online dating does have two things going for it: 1) it's much, much bigger than Flint, Michigan and quite possibly bigger than NYC, London or Tokyo, and 2) the option to filter on more than just looks. I can't say I have any experience with online dating, but I don't quite understand the stigma either. Anyway, let's not derail this thread any further. When it comes to the question of where to meet women, I think it is to each his own.

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One of the most useful things you will ever learn about body language.

I've got several girls who are friends of mine who have tried the whole "online dating" thing. And one thing I will say about these girls (even though they are friends)... They have to personality of a wet towel or they don't have jobs and are looking for a sugar daddy or they are too insecure about themselves and it turns guys off right away.. All I'm saying, when you are digging at the bottom of the barrel... don't expect to find someone who belongs at the top. You aren't going to find a girl who has the caliber of a model or a dancer on the internet. Plain and simple. They meet too many guys in person to even have to look there for a guy. And there are plenty of ways to qualify girls for yourself in person and weed out the garbage. Once you meet tons of them and realize what you want.. You tend to pick up on things that you do and don't like pretty quickly. Anyone can put what ever information they want people to know about them on a dating profile. You can only fake it for so long (if even at all) if you are right infront of each other.. You are correct though... to each his own.