Hi everyone

Just wondering if anyone can relate to this. Sometimes a conversation goes really well online, and when you ask the woman to meet, they either don't respond, or makes it very difficult, for example something like "I'm busy until next month..."

Or even after we have gone out on a date or two, they suddenly start to pull back by not responding to emails/texts. Or sometimes she will start saying something like "let's be friends first. I don't feel comfortable going out on dates with someone I don't know well..." But I have not had any woman say that she just doesn't like me as a date. So I feel like there is more than one explanation for this than the fact that she just lost interest in me as a date.

I find this very frustrating.

Can anyone please enlighten me?

Thanks!

Paul

They pull of for a reason, and you are probably doing something wrong.

If they after few days say "lets be friends" then it's b/c you don't elicit sexual tension enough. You know, guys hear "lets be friends" only when they act as friends, but those that make sexual tension, tease, lead, make them horny in every way possible wont hear that line. Work on that buddy. And don't ask them out, TELL THEM!

Tell something like, im not a fan of facebook chatting... meet me at xy tomorrow so we can talk like people face to face and have some fun... Show some leadeship, confidence and dont ask. Tease them if they are scared.

If they don't answer, move on buddy . Fuck'em, theres plenty of fish in the sea.

This. I mean, there are some freak occurences, but overall, you probably need to be more sexual in your game. Women are very fond of words, in fact words make them hornier than pictures. Simply talking about sex with her, if you do it right (Don't necessarily start asking her for all her experiences, and don't get into the specifics of boyfriends or whatever), will make her imagine having sex with you, then she'll start asking herself tons of questions like: What would he be like? Is he good? Am I attracted to him? etc etc...

From there, as long as you keep her chasing you, and keep her interest while making an emotional connection, the answers to those questions will be positive.

Thanks so much for your response guys

Specifically, I asked this one woman I met online to have a coffee, and she says she has family visiting her this weekend (which I believe her), and she says let's touch base again next week because she doesn't know how busy she will be next week.

It sounds fair... So how should I respond?

If I say "Sure let's touch base again next week", do I sound like a wuss?
And I know she's probably not going to take the initiative to message ME next week. Women almost never do. So I will have to message her again next week to ask her again. I feel even more like a wuss by doing that...

But how else am I supposed to handle the situation?

Thanks in advance!

Paul

I have okc log on bodybuilding dot com. I am far from pro. More like noob at this. Much better at cold approach then online. Even there I am far from great. Given the disaster my life has been in since the drunk driving accident, I have come a long way. I found another log on he site. The guy uses the name blinky. The log is a year old and still going. He taught me to send 3-4 messages then say, "I feel comfortable calling. What is your number?" He told me to move on if she won't agree to meet up. Use a search engine. Our logs will come up.

To: xoxoxo,
You're not a wuss by saying that ok lets touch bases next week. Leave it at that and don't message her for a few days or until that week. By not acting needy, you are not being a wuss. When that week comes, text her and say hi, chat a bit and then see with her if she has time. Say something "We need to get a cup of coffee that you owe me since the last week plus a feet rub." You're playfully accusing her of owing you something for not being able to meet you the last week and a feet rub which is kind of an extreme but funny. She'll probably laugh at it and might say oh I didn't know I owed you anything, etc. If she says I have time on Tues at 4pm tell her Tues is fine but I'll have to meet you at 5 since I'll be doing, (whatever) that way you are still doing it on your terms. But don't reply right away to the texts.

Depending on how good looking a guy is, women (who if they're attractive and are at least a 7, will get totally bombarded with messages), being very flaky when it comes to committing to meet in person, is part and parcel of online game unfortunately and it's why it should only always be done as a side thing, to still doing approaches and running game in the real world.

If you work on a rule of 3s, that if you've tried 3 times to get a reply back and/or to make arrangements to meet up and you still don't get a response, it's time to move on, as online is a total numbers game, as are real life approaches as well.

I've been dealing with this same exact bullshit for 2 months and finally realized what I'm doing wrong... I was running heavy attraction and almost no comfort.

When I started online game a year ago, i was terrible at running attraction over text/online. So all I did was comfort. Basically just getting to know them with the typical fun texts that pua forums will tell you to use. I don't think I encountered more than 3 flakes over a period of 3 months and i was getting tons of dates. I think the girls were more agreeable to meeting up because at the very least, they were invested in me platonically. But as we all know, impressions over text and online mean almost zilch. It's all about that first real-life encounter.

So even though I was doing heavy comfort and nearly zero attraction over text back then, I would get super sexual on the date. Start out with friendly, socially-acceptable kino and quickly ramp it up. Bring the convo to dating and sex as quickly as the conversation allowed for. Kiss-close her somewhere in the middle of the to allow for plenty of time to establish myself as a sexual being in her mind.

I suggest just having normal conversations with them over text. Not the boring "how are you" or "what are you doing", but don't be a dancing monkey and try to throw out all these attraction routines. Focus more on comfort for now and I guaruntee you'll start seeing better results.

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