Alright, this is the first date I have enjoyed. The lady showed up to have a good time. Didn't try to make me do anything. I mostly just looped her questions and remarks back on her for the whole night.

Not gonna lie, she's a got some curves, good looking though. We'll call it an HB 7-8 if your down for that sort of thing. Pictures weren't deceiving, she was up front before we met, but was a touch bigger than her photos made her look like.

We got some cuddling, and kissing. good times. Already got plans for another date.

I sat next to her in the booth at the restaurant. Did some outside arm and leg touching. We talked about everything. Went to my truck, talked some more. Basically cuddled and talked for a couple hours. It was easy to keep her going on her own stuff.

Things I did right:
I kept her feeding on her own conversation.
I did the kino in the right order, and tried not t kiss for more than a few seconds.
I was able to keep my fidgeting down and posture a lot better.
Basically stayed agreeable.

Things I did wrong:
I did try for the tongue, don't know why, was not in a location where we could do more.
She told me that she didn't understand why I asked her random questions. I had not been paying attention, but she had not really understood some of the things I said. She is not conversationally aware. Not socially aware either. Which is weird for a girl as pretty in the way she is pretty.

I think she wants a relationship, don't know how to bring things to a more casual sex level. I don't want to lie to her. At this point I have not told her I want to be in a relationship with her or anything. I probably won't ever. Anyone know how to do this with skill, with girls who claim they want serious?

I made a bunch of changes to my profile, and it seems to have messed with my return rate. I'm back down to where I was before I started, and no one is texting me except the last one.


My changes were:

1. My profile heading:
"Just another jerk"

2. The bottom words:
Don't message me______(insert whatever here)______

3. I also took out my close up picture, but it wasn't my main picture. I was just me sitting on a bench alone looking off into the sky. Saw it in an article on dating, decided to copy the design.



I'm going to be slowly changing them back one by one and see if it is the changes, or just an unlucky dry spell.

Recording this live. I just sent this chick the wrong email. It was designed entirely for someone else. I sent a second message stating so. I did not apologize, I just sent.....


"Haha, that was meant for someone else"


She contacted me and seemed pretty interested. If anyone has any suggestions for fixing a mistake like this, then I am all ears.

Just an update. I have an account with Plenty Of Fish now. Looking at all my area, statistically 5 new people join that meet my criteria a week. And I have messaged all the ladies in my area several times now. I got some dates, and am still in contact with one, but through the process of learning and trying things that are no good, I believe I have chased off much of the pool I was working with.

Also, I will note that Match is now sending me over 50% Matches that haven't logged on in over 3 weeks.

POF is a whole lot more active than it use to be in my area. Within the first couple hours I had only messaged 10 women and had 2 responses, and first responder. One is already texting with me. Before the second hour was up there were 2 new women signed in.

I will also note, that I have started asking women I don't want to meet what they think of my profile, worst parts, best parts, etc............Don't know if that is helpful or not, but I'm giving it a try.

Gonna try and take this slow, make small changes and see what the outcome is.

Well I got several responses from women who said they liked my directness on my profile. So I'm gonna keep it the same basic way for now.


I got a response from one lady who stopped talking to me a while ago who said something that I think is probably true........I have this routine that is basically me calling them a stalker, and running a bit where they have to disprove being a stalker to me. I thought this would be a decent way to get them to qualify themselves to me. This woman told me that it was the thing that turned her off. And I have done this with nearly every girl I have been texting. It gets quick responses so I assumed that it was a good bit to use, but maybe it's just offensive. She said it made her think I was creepy. We talked some more, and it seemed that asking why gave off a very human impression to her. I'm gonna ban my stalker bit.

The learning continues.

Went on another date with a different lady. Here is the short and sweet.


What I did wrong:
I went on the date.


What I did right:
Posture/tonality was better. I got some pics of me and her. She seemed to be into me, but she was so dumb, so dirty looking. And not in a sexy way. She just felt half tarded. I felt bad for her. She even brought her kid along the date.


I won't call her back. She is somewhat harassing me now that she is mad at me for shit I never even said. Oh well, at least I wasn't the loser on this one.


Edit: I'm tired, let me put more effort into this post.

POF has proven to be a far better place the Match. The two women who told me they didn't like my jokes about them stalking me were right on the money. This is very strange to me, because I have gotten emails from girls saying they loved my opening joke in my profile. I am getting more replies and more views after I deleted the comment.

I have been doing emails in rounds of ten rather than what I was doing before, which was to email absolutely everyone. This way I can sit back and judge what I did wrong more accurately.

I am currently texting 3 girls, and none of them will go out with me, lol. They all claim to be busy all week. I believe I will attempt some pick-up while at the grocery store this week, or any stores. Just looking to roam around town hitting on ladies.

This is complete fucking bullshit, Plenty Of Fish says that I can no longer send out canned routines. My profile is just getting good. This fucking blows. If I can't do canned shit any more, then time consumptions pushes me out. This might be my last week doing the online thing. Shitty shitty.