I have been doing the online thing again, first time back in a few years. I have been at this for 7 days. When I use to do it I would get on average 1 date a month, but really I want to up that. If she reads the first email, then she reads every email I send them, and some have looked at my profile 6 or more times, but no response...........

3 out of 50 responded, but one was someone I already knew and was not going to date, one lived 600 miles away and I got no idea why she thought I would care. And the third is paranoid and won't share her pics.

This is a basic email I write most women.....
Where the blank is I just add whatever is in there profile, if they love dogs, I ask about dogs, they love music, I ask about music, etc...

What am I doing wrong?

you're being boring and predictable like every other guy out there. girls get messages like this from AFCs all day long. why would she respond?

That's a generic message that should be getting a little better than 3 out of 50. Maybe it's the way your profile is constructed. Can't really say.

I think you ought to try out something a little more provocative in the first message, something to hook them into responding.

Most these girls don't actually say anything. They say the same $#!t like "I'm funny, smart, passionate, happy" What the hell am I supposed to do with that. this is 90 percent of every girl, like their afraid to actually say something about themselves. At some point I got the most pleasure out of reading a girls profile that said "I hate every". That was the best one.......


As far as my profile goes, it is probably a little picky, not about her though, I tell them about me, then leave it open for what I want from them. But it's honest. Should I just chuck all specifics?

And where is the abbreviations thread?

heres what im saying: reasonably attractive girl puts up a profile on an online dating site. she immediately gets tons of guys sending her messages. notice i didnt even say hot, because those girls get insane amounts of messages...

but anyway...so shes going through boring message after boring message. your message doesnt make you stand out in any way. its just boring, mundane, everyday conversation. she doesnt want to discuss what type of dog she has with you, she wants to meet a cool guy and get fucked. unless youre really attractive or something, shes not even gonna click on your profile.

so what can you do? well, really, the only thing you can do is stand out. send her a message thats funny (without being tryhard), or that challenges her, or that is unique in some way. a friend of mine, on a whim one day, sent out a bunch of messages to girls that said "what's up, porkchop?". he said it got so many more responses than when he tried to have a normal conversation with girls.

now, obviously im not recommending you send that dumb shit to girls on dating sites, but it does serve to make my point. be funny, original, and challenging. then, when you start talking to her and get to know her a little better, you can find out about her dog.

Thanks for the response, in the last 2 days I have been reading everything I can on this forum. I have started using some of those Openers and have actually increased my responses. I'm really starting to believe it is all about originality, even bad originality at that is better.


Literally in two days I went from 3 out of 50 to 9 out of 63, I'm now over 1-10 base, which from what I read online is better than most. Even girls who I sent 3 emails finally replied after my forth stupid email critiquing their poor profile.

I definitely need to learn more about the back and forth communication, after the first 1-2 responses things seem to switch to an interview where we both just ask each other questions back and forth, and that gets boring fast.

I might have to put this next question in a seperate thread, but I didn't want to crowd the forum, but have you ever created a false account for a female just to see what guys are emailing girls in the area? Can I put up a false picture of a hottie?

I found when I had a really good profile, I could practically write any old boring shit and get a reply. Although I'd borrowed that profile and couldn't live up to the expectations it created. That's an entirely different problem though.

The majority I've sent messages to looked at my profile before answering or not, the ones that seemingly didn't probably had that turned off. I'd say if you're not getting replies it's a good sign you need to work on your profile/pictures more.

Do a search on these threads for 'the direct approach', easily the best general base to work from when dating online. Lose the 'ask me anything' bit, AFC.

I agree with what he said. That has worked for me a few times too.