I have been gaming this HB10 whom I met from a dating. She is a commercial model and part of her work is giving dating / relationship advice. I read her articles in her magazine and blog - she definitely knows game. The image she projects is that she hangs around with high society and can get the best men - i.e. rich directors, wealthy businessmen, etc. Suffice to say this is top game.

I opened and got her number after 3 messages online. Moved to text messaging where we mostly talked about her. All the time she talks about herself and DHV by saying things outright, i.e. she has "long legs", she "likes to wear micro mini", she has sensitive skin and can afford to go to have expensive cosmetic procedures at a top cosmetologist for minor stuff (well, she is a model after all), has friends who are out of the country, etc. etc. She also gave me her twitter where she has 3k+ followers while only following 60. She constantly tweets about relationships, men, her modeling gigs, interviews, etc. I added her (mistake), but she never added me. Our conversations were mostly about her, she never gave any hint of interest and I was careful to keep it all casual do push/pull showing interest every now and then.

I casually invited her to join me and my friends at a bar on my 9th message. She couldn't join but we kept texting that night talking about other things. I stopped talking about the party but she brought it up eventually asking how it went.

The next day she forwarded a text quote about surprises and God's blessings. Twice. I responded saying it was touching and asked if she wrote it herself. She responded and that was it.

I waited 3 days before texting her again. It was Tuesday and I wanted to meet hre by inviting her to a New Year's party on Thursday.
It would have ended there if she hadn't texted the next day:
When I read the chauffer line I had to raise an eyebrow. She knows I am no wealthy bachelor. I waited and responded 7 hours later:
Of course she never did, and I didn't bother calling her either. Texted her again after 7 days.
She didn't respond and that was that. Two days later she forwards another quote about God and how He won't take things that are meant for you and those things that you loose will come back.

I still kept quiet, and after 2 more days she texted with another DHV.
I responded 5 hours later with a neg and a counter-DHV.
She responded 2 minutes later with a weird text:
When I didn't respond 5 minutes later she added:
At this point I was really creeped out and could not care less about this girl. I didn't want to speak to her again.

It has been 2 days since and I am fine if we do not talk again. However there's this side of me that sees this as a challenge and would like to win her as a person (as opposed to winning her romantically). Life is all about dealing with people, influencing them and winning friends.

What do you guys think? I want to learn from this.

Have to say she sounds just a tad bit egoistical. Saying that you should have push/pull harder with her. You should have also thrown shit tests at her to challenge her basically. Also it may not been an bad idea to have twisted what she said in a sexual way.

But quite frankly I think trying to win her over at this point is a lost cause really. As you pretty much been peg as another guy that is going to give her attention and feed that ego of hers.

I feel like there must be some missing conversation-- maybe over Twitter?

Looks are important, but they are also fleeting-- especially for women. I suspect that this girl is doing you a big favor. She's saved you a lot of time and effort by letting her true colors out. There is a not-so-insignificant % of women online who believe themselves to be "old-fashioned" and that a guy should pay their way, and that it is an honor just to be out with them-- I find this to be truly heinous.

The one thing you can't do, is to cave and act like a AFC, telling her you're sorry, etc. Even if she goes out with you, it gives her 100% of the power, and unless she has some sort of control issues, she won't be into you long-term.

Your best bet is to try to convince her that she misunderstood you, but depending on how much of the conversation we're missing, I don't know if that would be possible.

Otherwise, I dont think you have much of a move, frankly. Hail mary-style you could freeze her out for a week and then try to appeal to her ego with some sort of mysterious text.

Good luck!

She sounds like the type of girl I've dealt with a few times!!

The only successful way I've had in dating these girls is to counter their DHV stories with greater ones of your own. Though make sure you can back it up.

one of these types said to me recently "oh I went to a really exclusive vip party for NYE" I just said "cool, I went to a 17th centuary haunted house that's owned by my mate! Best night of my life! Spooky sleep over but the company and wine cellar kept me safe "

Notice I never asked how her awesome great party that I wasn't at was...

It sounds stupid but it's the only way I've been able to knock them off their perch because there typically awesome story will sound shite compared to mine.


I don't normally date these types as they tend to be social climbers and gold diggers.

Well I guess your cock is what wants her clearly you realize this girl has some issues and your not willing to deal with that shit, smart move. As for your cock, well hes hungry.

My best bet is freeze out and feed her fire a bit but dont...

Credit to who ever wrote this...

Congratulations...

She willsay for what

I saw/heard/did something that reminded me of you

Then she will ask for what, think of something here a "push" or pull depending on how you look at it.

This really drunk person kept hitting on me, then said something about how her feet are killing her that shes been in heels all day and been drinking all night.

Then possibly friend zone her, make her think your not interested.

This linemight be shit, but I am not thinking 100% "is it considered rape if I am also drunk, I lost my lawyers number and I would hate to ruin my next weekend plans..."

I am curious how this turns out, but my 2cents, don't care as much about her replies and her ego be exactly like her, think like a douche. Like GTdave said, when she says something just say something to trump it, and dont even respond to her day. Who cares about her day, your cock wants her not your soul/brain/heart, you aint gonna fuck her personality... and that might help with your mindset. Be confident, this girl is confident as fuck and she knows she can get any man, make her feel you arent an easy catch and bait her then let it out again then bait and hook.

Turn it around, say you gonna kidnap her and lure her into your car with some sweets but you have to call her in 5 mins to make sure she's not around any witnesses, then just dont call her.

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That won't work against a girl like in the op. You would have to take it further and say I went to a Playboy massion party for new years if you wanted to play the DHV topping game.

And be called out repetatively for lying and bsing. its not what you do its how you present it and show its awesomeness!

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-Raphael

Aspiring Artist

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I think that one issue that most of us forget is that this is supposed to be FUN! Don't write anything to her that isn't fun for you to send off. I LOVE some of Raphael's texts. If you aren't having fun sending those messages to girls, we're all in trouble. That's to say though, that if this girl is dragging you down, move on to the next one.

Instead of overt DHVing, I would just keep your reactions tight; and maybe use some DHV spikes if they come up in conversation, but don't brag. Its probably not going to matter that you've dated models before, frankly. Preselection is great, but it needs to be a part of a congruent attitude you're conveying or girls can sniff this stuff out.

Good luck!

I guess I didn't make my post clear enough then. If you are going to play the DHV with the sort of girl in the op you are going to have name drop on your DHV with online game especially. It really doesn't matter how you deliver that you went to a haunted 17th cenutry house, she could care less. You saying you went to a Playboy party is going to carry more value than your 17th century house. Obviously bsing it is only going to lead to fail, but unless you can name drop best to say away from the DHV game that you talked about.

But really you don't need to DHV to these sort of girls. As you said "Notice I never asked how her awesome great party that I wasn't at was... ", in short don't give a crap about the things she brings up. Just giving off a "so what" attitude is enough to knock most of these girls off.

I think you should forget trying to game her. If you ever had a chance you certainly don't now. She's the type you got to get it right first time and not doing the 'right' things is instant DLV. Her reference to self of being old fashioned could mean she wanted an old-fashioned date and/or to be asked in a voice call. Going to a party with a stranger probably is not it.

Since she's still vaguely talking to you it would useful to find out, what to her the right way of asking is.