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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:28 am 
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Had this local girl on POF that I'm talking to..she keeps answers short but always responds and has questions for me. Asked her if she texts the other day, no response. Then I write her back, sorry if I was too forward, how are you(or some shit). She wrote back saying how she doesn't like giving out her number but went on asking me more questions. She is cute, but I'm not trying to play a game of a million questions just not to have a chance at any. Should I forget her or is there another approach I should try?


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Some girls guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close with it comes to online. I would try something like this: "I should have figured you wouldnt have felt comfortable giving out your number to someone you haven't met. I feel the same way. Why dont we just meet first. Say for coffee?" You can change it however you like.

A lot of girls would rather meet someone before giving their number to a near stranger. My opinion is that she is still responding to you because she is still interested and possibly waiting around for you to ask her out. Hopefully you didnt make her wait too long.


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ok, first of all stop apologizing for things you say to girls. if you mess up, don't ever take it back or back down. just move forward the best you can. youre messaging back and forth with a girl. you send her a message asking for her number. she stops responding. MOVE ON. its that simple. when you send a message like "omg i'm so sorry i shouldnt have said that" she's gonna lose any attraction that she had for you in the first place. if she gives you a b.s. excuse why she cant give you her number, it just means you didnt do enough to attract her. which is fine, it happens. its all part of the game. but for christs' sake dont keep talking to her.

getting a girls number online is not hard or time consuming at all. after a couple of messages back and forth, just tell her to give you her number and that you'll text her if you have the chance. personally, i like seeding it with something like "hey, i'm probably gonna be bored outta my mind tomorrow at work, so give me your number and i'll text you if i get the chance." thats really all it should ever take. this is usually on like the 3rd or 4th message (meaning you each sent 3 or 4) and a lot of times she'll just give you her number before that point anyway.


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Some girls guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close with it comes to online. I would try something like this: "I should have figured you wouldnt have felt comfortable giving out your number to someone you haven't met. I feel the same way. Why dont we just meet first. Say for coffee?" You can change it however you like.

A lot of girls would rather meet someone before giving their number to a near stranger. My opinion is that she is still responding to you because she is still interested and possibly waiting around for you to ask her out. Hopefully you didnt make her wait too long.

with all due respect, and i'm not trying to be a dick here in any way, but this is just flat out wrong and bad advice.

i've met tons of girls online over the last couple of years and they, as a general rule, dont "guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close" at all. and your notion that a girl would be more comfortable meeting him out in public before giving him her number is beyond ridiculous. it seems pretty obvious to me that a girl needs to be MUCH more comfortable to meet a guy out than to just simply give out her number. and its not really even close.

again, not trying to be a dick, but the stuff you posted doesn't jive with any of the experience my friends and i have had with online dating over the last couple of years or so. her not giving up her number is very likely to be simply a case of her not being attracted or interested enough in the interaction and not a result of her being uncomfortable giving her number out or whatever excuse she gave him at the time.


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Some girls guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close with it comes to online. I would try something like this: "I should have figured you wouldnt have felt comfortable giving out your number to someone you haven't met. I feel the same way. Why dont we just meet first. Say for coffee?" You can change it however you like.

A lot of girls would rather meet someone before giving their number to a near stranger. My opinion is that she is still responding to you because she is still interested and possibly waiting around for you to ask her out. Hopefully you didnt make her wait too long.

with all due respect, and i'm not trying to be a dick here in any way, but this is just flat out wrong and bad advice.

i've met tons of girls online over the last couple of years and they, as a general rule, dont "guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close" at all. and your notion that a girl would be more comfortable meeting him out in public before giving him her number is beyond ridiculous. it seems pretty obvious to me that a girl needs to be MUCH more comfortable to meet a guy out than to just simply give out her number. and its not really even close.

again, not trying to be a dick, but the stuff you posted doesn't jive with any of the experience my friends and i have had with online dating over the last couple of years or so. her not giving up her number is very likely to be simply a case of her not being attracted or interested enough in the interaction and not a result of her being uncomfortable giving her number out or whatever excuse she gave him at the time.
Ya Alwayson is on the money here. Girls are much more willing to give you their number than do anything else. I've also discovered that some girls first want you to text them a bunch of times before they talk.

This is very annoying for me since I prefer a conversation and suck at texting. However, you have to play the game and this means doing it so they are comfortable. Then from the conversation, I can usually get them to come over and from there...:D

I would ask if anyone has any ideas to speed up this process, since some girls waste more of my time than I would like :)


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Some girls guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close with it comes to online. I would try something like this: "I should have figured you wouldnt have felt comfortable giving out your number to someone you haven't met. I feel the same way. Why dont we just meet first. Say for coffee?" You can change it however you like.

A lot of girls would rather meet someone before giving their number to a near stranger. My opinion is that she is still responding to you because she is still interested and possibly waiting around for you to ask her out. Hopefully you didnt make her wait too long.

with all due respect, and i'm not trying to be a dick here in any way, but this is just flat out wrong and bad advice.

i've met tons of girls online over the last couple of years and they, as a general rule, dont "guard their phone number ESPECIALLY close" at all. and your notion that a girl would be more comfortable meeting him out in public before giving him her number is beyond ridiculous. it seems pretty obvious to me that a girl needs to be MUCH more comfortable to meet a guy out than to just simply give out her number. and its not really even close.

again, not trying to be a dick, but the stuff you posted doesn't jive with any of the experience my friends and i have had with online dating over the last couple of years or so. her not giving up her number is very likely to be simply a case of her not being attracted or interested enough in the interaction and not a result of her being uncomfortable giving her number out or whatever excuse she gave him at the time.
My experience has been mixed with this. I've had girls give out their number and I have had girls who felt more comfortable meeting first. Now as general rule I would agree with you that they do not. That's why I said "some". You just have to gauge. I believe there was a topic about this very issue actually where a guy asked a girl to meet instead of getting her number and it worked.

Example of part of a recent conversation I had:

Me:I dunno how I feel about giving my number to someone I haven't met. It just seems a little weird. I should have guessed it'd be the same for you. Maybe we should just get some coffee and meet. :)

Hb:lol ya i have not given my number out to anyone on this
site it is wierd i totally agree coffee or booze lol

Now previously I had told her to give me her number and she then asked me to give her mine instead. Obviously, that is great way to fail so I backed off, re-calibrated, and it worked.


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This is very annoying for me since I prefer a conversation and suck at texting. However, you have to play the game and this means doing it so they are comfortable.

i see this all the time from guys on here and i just dont get it. guys, stop fearing the text message! its just so easy to get a girl attracted to you via texting. also, its efficient in that you can do it when you want and at the pace you want. you have as long as you need to come up with a response and if the conversation goes a way you dont like, you can just stop responding and reinitiate later. plus, girls always have their phone on them and theyre always bored, so if youre the guy who can make them laugh and entertain them, theyll love you. plus its so good for building comfort. theres just tons of reasons why its become my preferred method of building attraction with a new girl.

i mean, theres right and wrong ways to do this shit. and you need to learn that. obviously if its saturday night at 9 pm and youre bombing some HB with a bunch of texts when you should be out doing fun stuff with your boys, thats not cool. but obv thats not what im talking about here. DONE CORRECTLY the text message can be one of your best and most efficient weapons for turning a phone number into an f-close.


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My experience has been mixed with this. I've had girls give out their number and I have had girls who felt more comfortable meeting first.

umm ok. again, i've never seen it and none of my friends have ever seen it but apparently youre meeting a bunch of girls (or at the very least, more than one) who are more comfortable meeting you in person first than giving their number out.

did the girls actually meet you out first or did they just say they would? were they actual one-on-one dates or was she just out with some friends and had you meet her somewhere?

not calling you a liar or anything, but this really doesnt make any sense to me, given that:

1. girls give their number out all the time. even to tons of guys theyre not really even interested in.

2. getting them to meet up with you can sometimes be hard even if theyre actually into you.

3. after tons of empirical evidence over the last like 3 years i've never encountered it even once (and none of my friends have either).

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Now as general rule I would agree with you that they do not. That's why I said "some".
fair enough. i suppose my original response to you should have said as a general rule i feel that your advice was not good. i suppose if you are regularly talking to girls on dating sites that dont want to give you their number then it could work. i guess.


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My experience has been mixed with this. I've had girls give out their number and I have had girls who felt more comfortable meeting first.

umm ok. again, i've never seen it and none of my friends have ever seen it but apparently youre meeting a bunch of girls (or at the very least, more than one) who are more comfortable meeting you in person first than giving their number out.

did the girls actually meet you out first or did they just say they would? were they actual one-on-one dates or was she just out with some friends and had you meet her somewhere?

not calling you a liar or anything, but this really doesnt make any sense to me, given that:

1. girls give their number out all the time. even to tons of guys theyre not really even interested in.

2. getting them to meet up with you can sometimes be hard even if theyre actually into you.

3. after tons of empirical evidence over the last like 3 years i've never encountered it even once (and none of my friends have either).

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Now as general rule I would agree with you that they do not. That's why I said "some".
fair enough. i suppose my original response to you should have said as a general rule i feel that your advice was not good. i suppose if you are regularly talking to girls on dating sites that dont want to give you their number then it could work. i guess.
To answer you question, yes they were one on one dates. The girl in the conversation I posted met me one-on-one. It's not a regular experience for me. Trust this is a small minority, at least from what I have encountered.


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This is very annoying for me since I prefer a conversation and suck at texting. However, you have to play the game and this means doing it so they are comfortable.

i see this all the time from guys on here and i just dont get it. guys, stop fearing the text message! its just so easy to get a girl attracted to you via texting. also, its efficient in that you can do it when you want and at the pace you want. you have as long as you need to come up with a response and if the conversation goes a way you dont like, you can just stop responding and reinitiate later. plus, girls always have their phone on them and theyre always bored, so if youre the guy who can make them laugh and entertain them, theyll love you. plus its so good for building comfort. theres just tons of reasons why its become my preferred method of building attraction with a new girl.

i mean, theres right and wrong ways to do this shit. and you need to learn that. obviously if its saturday night at 9 pm and youre bombing some HB with a bunch of texts when you should be out doing fun stuff with your boys, thats not cool. but obv thats not what im talking about here. DONE CORRECTLY the text message can be one of your best and most efficient weapons for turning a phone number into an f-close.
Interesting. Well, I'm still learning about the text and am willing to do whatever I need to get a girl down lol.

Would you mind copy and pasting some of your text conversations that went very well for you and may be applied generally? I think this would as a framework for these types of things.

I think you're totally right that texting is much more convenient and can be done regardless of location, activity, time-- which makes the process more flexible.


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ive definitely posted some on here before, so you can look over my older posts if you have the time. critiquing peoples text message conversations is something ive done a bunch on the forums as i feel its one of the strongest parts of my game. my general rule is to just be funny, playful, and interesting while at the same time mixing in just enough 'real' conversation to build comfort. it works like a charm.

also, if you wanna post some text message convos you've had, feel free and i'll help critique them.


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Yeah I gotta check that shit out too..been texting quite a few hotties but having trouble getting over the hump. I got a quiet type I went out with who's definitely interested, gotta find a way to push my way through


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