Hey guys, I'm a big-time AFC. I've had a brief engagement with pick-up artistry before, and have seen the potential in it, but I gave up on it for various reasons, but now I come crawling back!

This is pretty long, because I've exchanged a few emails already - AFC style!

Before deciding to seek the guidance of those wise in the ways, I set up a PoF account a couple of weeks ago (I had been on it before, but shut it down). So I had a typical AFC profile (now changed as per this yet-another-critique-my-pof-profile-vt92912.html thread) and I was starting to send a few emails.

The girl
I came across an older HB7, not a cougar, because she wasn't looking for younger guys. She had in her profile that she was divorced, so in my desperate attempt to get her to reply to me, I told her I needed advice, becaus my parents were going through a divorce and I was caught in the middle.

Her first reply was "I assume you're taking the piss", to which I replied, "No, not at all. I'm being genuine". Which I was to a degree - the situation is current and real, but the intention was not what I said it was.


She then replied with a couple of helpful and to the point emails, but it was pretty clear she had no interest, and it seemed like she wasn't overly happy with the context of the exchange - understandably so too.


I know that it is a bit of a "no no" to brign stuff like this up, because you don't want her to associate negative emotions/feelings with your emails.


Rapildy Downhill
Anyway, her replies were getting shorter and so were mine - we've exchanged around 12 emails, but I've obviosuly got nowhere. After she didn't reply to one of my emails, I tried to get her back on side by emailing her about a couple of "spiritual" books she should read. She sent a one line reply saying that she had red the first one, and that it was brilliant, and she recommended another one.

We swapped another couple of emails, hers were all one line replies, and it was pretty clear she had no interest.


In a couple of my emails I put down AFC lines like "I will stop bugging you after this....", to which she replied, "you're not bugging me at all" (but still short, one line replies).


The last email I sent, which she hasn't replied to yet was a good old AFC line "so are you having any luck on PoF?" Needless to say she didn't reply - so that is where it's at.


Last chance saloon
I think I have one more shot though. I noticed from the little profile pic beside her emails, in my inbox, that she keeps changing her photos. I've gone onto her profile to check them out (I have changed the setting that allows others to see when you have viewed them), and there have been some pictures a lot hotter than others.

I was thinking of offering some friendly advice about which photos to use, but I'm not sure how to go about it. Any suggestions?

If we get some bit of a rapport from that, I was thinking of asking her to meet - bearing in mind I'm not what she's looking for (she knows that I am moving away soon and am only looking for short term "fun"), I was thinkng about going direct and asking her to meet for a coffee or something, just because I think she is cool (or whatecer) and would like to meet someone form the site, without the pressure of looking for anything out of it.


Do you guys think it is a lost cause?

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I LIKE CAKE

You're opener asking for advice was pretty AFC, and you never really recovered. You really DLV'd yourself.

Other than that you're doing a few more things wrong, at least looking at what has worked for me. I'm just trying to help you, so don't think I'm just being a dick.

Unless you are getting seriously blatant indications she wants to fuck or meet up, get the number before asking to meet. You can build more rapport texting and talking, and it will build more attraction, lessening flakes.

Another thing: you're sending too many POF messages. I always have enough attraction and comfort built by about the fifth exchange to get those digits, sometimes sooner.

As far as it being a lost cause, might as well try to close her. I mean, it wouldn't hurt anything....

Also, when you ask about her PoF experience, that's not AFC if done right. One line that's always worked for me: You're profile, IMO, doesn't look that bad. If you aren't getting good results try changing up the content a little, and maybe even a few better pics. Not a fag, but you're not bad looking, and should be getting better results.

Cheers for the feedback dlight.

The profile description - in it's current form - only went up last night, so I haven't really seen if it is having the desired effect yet.


Any recommendations on how to go about closing her? Do you think the profile pic approach could work? - depending on how it's done of course

p.s. cheers for compliment )

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I LIKE CAKE

One thing I always do to test the waters before number closing is this: This works almost every time! If she replies with her name, number close her ASAP. Don't ask for her name though, because you want to know if she discloses it voluntarily.

EDIT: you could try something like this:

I sent the email below:

hey missy, you seem to be having some trouble choosing between your photos (the little profile pic in my sent messages keeps changing). in your main pic at the moment, the dress looks lovely on you and the hair looks nice too, and you can see you remembered to floss, but it looks a little like you had to squash yourself up a bit to squeeze into the photo.

I remember seeing a photo of you in a red dress, you were holding a drink or something; that dress looked pretty nice on you. If you have any pics of you in casual wear, it might be an idea to put one up, just to show your simpler side


that's about all the free consultation advice I can give, in repayment for your advice. Anything else will have to be put through the books



the reply I got was:

lmao..thank u!!



any ideas on what to do next?

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I LIKE CAKE

Hate to break it to you. But you can't chase a girl that doesn't want to be caught.

She's clearly disinterested and is just being polite. Cut your losses and move on.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

You don't drink you don't do drugs you don't smoke? In field it wouldn't matter cause your background is still unknown to the girl but on dating profiles they will judge you by your profile. You should make your profile ''average'' so make it ''social drinker''