Unfortunately, online game means that girls may stop talking to you at any time no matter how good your game actually is. I'm never angry when this happens...I'll randomly stop talking to chicks also sometimes. Anyways, I decided to try to come up with an e-mail to send an HB that hasn't returned my last message in an effort to get her back in my mix. After much trial and error, this is what I've found works best..and with it I'll get about half the girls back. So if a girl isn't answering you, wait atleast two weeks and write the following:

I've field tested this a lot and it does work. However, it is important to note that unless you go out of your way to hold her interest in the next e-mail, (DHV, neg, the works), she'll start ignoring you again immediately. But this will atleast give you a shot at bringing her back.

-Esperanto

i'm wondering if a msg like that could be interpreted as being too confident. if u get a 50% return rate that ain't bad tho. but perhaps u could get a better return rate by toning it down a bit. Although in the end it ultimately comes down to personal style, there being no strict right or wrong way.

Personally i prefer something more succinct, such as: "so.....do ya still dream of me every nite or wot???? Of course u do!!!" I think this serves as a brief reminder that u are still out there and interested. I've also used: "i still dream of u every nite u know......or was that a nightmare????"

U are right in seeing the need to not be daunted by a target not returning yr last msg. My guess is that most AFC's stop communicating with a chic if they don't get a response to their last msg (this is wot i did when i was AFC anyway). This is one reason why I try to set up a meeting early as possible, i don't believe there's much to be gained by sending lots of msg's back and forth.

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Yea, its all personal style. I'm trying to be sarcastically overconfident in this e-mail, and the girls that write me back and get it say they love it. I've had girls say they've laughed out loud at work after reading it.

What would be the best way to follow up after a girl responds with:

"lol..hmm, i dont understand the email..but how are you?" bla blah blah

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if they respond positively?

any specific routines to run and which to avoid? you mentioned that you need to keep the girl's attention, i had a cold response from one girl and I think i've already lost her which sucks because this girl is a 7.

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If they respond, you are not out of the woods yet. You need some really good material to hold their attention. I'd go into a hilarious, DHVing story starting with, "Holy shit, let me tell you about my day..." or something like that. Its very important this be a good, well written, funny story. Otherwise she may go stale again.

-Esperanto

ok that sounds good. but she responded with a "what are you talking about?"

which i take it to mean that it did its job by standing out of all other messages shes received, and it got her thinking. I havnt talked to this girl for a long time now, and we had a little thing going on back when i was a junior in 06'. she's not that great looking, but considering ive just gotten into the game, it help my confidence build up by closing her.

im thinking bout negging her on not understanding the email, or going right into the DHV storytelling. I was an AFC back then, and I want to show it to her that I'm not that anymore without having to qualify myself directly to her (that will be her job to do)

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To be honest, I've never gotten that response before. I usually send this message if the contact is two weeks stale or so, so she knows exactly what I mean. I've never used it for a person that I haven't spoken to for that long a period of time. But you are right, the response means you stood out. I wouldn't neg too hard, I've found that DHVing through storytelling is the best way to go in these e-mails. Basically relay what you've been doing in general or in a specific story, and make it very funny. Find a funny DHV story that happened to you at some point (yesterday, a week ago, a month ago, doesn't matter) and say it happened yesterday. White lie, who gives a fuck. The question is how to transition her response into a DHV story on your end. In my opinion, ignore the question until the end of the e-mail and hook her with the DHV story. Start the e-mail with, "Holy shit, you wouldn't believe the day I just had..." Really spend the time to make this story engaging. At the end of the e-mail, just mention something like "So I've been fantastic. I figured we should get re-acquainted. Can you top that story?" Or something like that.

By the way, the DHV story e-mail works very well. Here are two abbreviated recent responses I've gotten from some I've sent:
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I hope this helps. I've also got a good neg I've tested that should be used in the second e-mail. It breaks the ice, gets her to qualify you, and really brings your e-mail exchanges to a more casual level. Check out my post to see it.

Esperanto, this is the story i came up with to tell her, it really happened, but it was from awhile back..

Holy shit, you wont believe what happened to me this weekend..so the guys and I decided to go camping and we hit up Cachuma Lake in SB area..there werent too many of us and we just went to hang out and get our minds away from all the drama round glendale..needless to say, we started taking a few shots, and pounding down beers and eating hot dogs off the grill..one of us (wont mention who) forgot to wrap the hot dog bag back up, and so all the water from the cooler filled up the hot dogs..haramoz to the maxx!! we didnt wanna just toss them out and we had seen a raccoon earlier in the day just wondering round..so one of the guys decided to build a trap and try to catch that raccoon. We had the box, wrapped in a trash bag, a stick tied to a string that reached all the way to the tent..and the hot dogs were under the box a few feet away from the tent..we sat patiently waiting..the raccoon came..sat beside the trash bag, looked at us..looked at the hot dog..looked back at us, and just calmly reached in and grabbed a hot dog and ate it while staring at us..how porru che? We named him "FDR (F**kin Dirty Raccoon)!!


it seemed to me to be the best story because it has some funny in it, some DHV showing that im outgoing outdoorsy person, creative (building a trap) and a fun to be around person..what you think?

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I’ll first critique, then change your story to demonstrate. The story has promise, but there’s a few things you need to know when telling a good story. First, girls love feelings. How funny was the situation? How did you feel at certain points in the story? Second, you need more descriptive words. Use metaphor, similes, comparisons, funny statements to spice it up. Finally, you need to punctuate in a way that controls the rhythm of reading. A good storyteller has a rhythm and flow to his words. This sort of thing needs to translate to your story. You need to lose the constant “…” as it can make your sentences run on forever without a break. Here’s my version (mind you, I wrote this quickly):

"Holy shit am I tired from this weekend! A few buddies of mine and I decided to say “fuck it” to our responsibilities and hit up Cachuma Lake, so we just hopped in the car and took off. What a beautiful place…with lush, green scenery that in our opinions could only be TRULY appreciated after atleast 6 shots of hard alcohol apiece. Boom, boom, boom. With liquor now greasing our wheels we decided to set up the grill for some hot dogs, and after finally getting it ready we realized that our hot dog bag had filled up with water from the cooler (ruining our precious weenies). Damnit! Well, we were hungry, we were drunk, and now we had some bait…the only logical answer was to catch our food like our caveman ancestors before us (funny what shots will do to your logic, isn’t it?). Considering none of my friends at this point were moving fast enough to hunt earthworms, I decided to set up a trap. We took the hot dog box, wrapped the box in a trash bag, stuck a stick through the bag, tied a string to the stick, and…well…did a whole lot of other Macgyver shit I won’t go into. So the trap was set. Tension filled the air. The leaves rustled in a faint wind. My friend burped something up that smelled like cheese. And out…came…a raccoon. Tentatively our prey crept toward the trap. He looked into the bag, looked around, took a step forward, took a step back, stopped for a split second…SPRUNG! Got it! The racoon was left squirming helplessly in the bag. Even in our drunk haze, though, we had to let it go as it was so damn cute. We named it FDR (Fucking Dirty Racoon) as it scurried off into the woods. Then we just drank our hunger away.

Sometimes you just find fun in the oddest of places and in the oddest of ways, you know?"

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See the difference? I changed some minor details to improve the story, but the core elements are still there. Let me know if this helps, and if you need anything else.

-Esperanto

wow, reading that makes me realize my mistakes and now i know what improvements to make. I guess i just didnt want to make it as long because this girl has sort of a short attention span. Didn't kno how long she would go on reading it, but what u did works. I'm going to use it next time.

Here is something i stumbled upon this weekend, it was sent to me by a friend who thought i could use it to play "the game."

You can just text this to a girl who like you said, you haven't talked to for awhile but are still somewhat in their mind and you want to reel them back in with some C/F:

" Damn those sexy eyes, That nice smile, That voice, That walk, That ass N dat style. Well, enough about me. How you doing?"

I've used this twice on two stale mates, one which i barely talk to lately, but another who i've had a constant battle with with keeping their interest. the latter responded positively and has kept in contact texting back and forth, and their last text was "you are something else you that? talk in a bit troublemaker" lol. she hasn't texted or called since. any advice on how i can further push this without being needy of her attention?

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